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« on: July 25, 2009, 01:21:21 AM »


Voting not open.

Can we have all communist leaders?
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2009, 02:50:11 PM »

My opinion:

Afghanistan
Albania
Angola
Bulgaria
Benin
Cambodia
China
Cuba
Czechoslovakia
Ethiopia
Germany (East)
Grenada
Hungary
Korea (North)
Laos
Mongolia
Mozambique
Nicaragua
Poland
Romania
Somalia
Soviet Union
Vietnam
Yemen (South)
Yugoslavia

I am sure I have forgotten some countries.
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2009, 04:11:40 PM »


Eh, they were COMECON observers.
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2009, 05:50:05 PM »

Stalin
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2009, 08:48:21 PM »

Nicolae Ceauşescu
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2009, 07:54:46 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2009, 06:14:27 PM »

Zhivkov
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2009, 05:58:17 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2009, 12:59:51 AM »

Bierut
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2009, 12:36:43 PM »

Leonid Brezhnev

He was the man of the stagnation.

Zastoi, yes, but wasn't a Stalinist like Dimitrov worse, or even ... Khrushchev, as he took part actively in Stalin's repression ?

@ fab
Yes there gives worse leaders like Brezhnev, but he had a long time the power to make something good. What he did? Nothing. No he begin a war in Afghanistan.

You're right, I just wanted to discuss...
He was a stupid and frightened guy, corrupt and hypocritical. He began his career under Stalin. He promoted dumb asses (Chernenko, Tikhonov, Grishin, Kunaev, Rashidov, etc). He was (collectively) responsible for Prague 1968 and Kabul 1979.
His only positive gestures were not to have killed Sakharov, Soljenitsyn (but he simply couldn't afford it...since the Soviet Union was already weakened) and Khrushchev (but I think he was afraid to be killed himself if he were ousted... and Shelepin was still around at this time, 1964...).

That's really a testament to Khrushchev more than anything else. His system made political killings largely unfeasible.

Dimitrov; young Brezhnev wasn't worthless like his older version.
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2009, 05:43:39 PM »

Chernenko

Brezhnev × 100. Even if he didn't do anything, he doesn't deserve to stay on.
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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2009, 04:55:58 PM »

Chernenko
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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2009, 01:42:01 AM »

Malenkov wasn't the worst of Stalin's circle, IMO.

Honecker
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2009, 12:47:36 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2009, 10:52:04 AM »

Husak
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« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2009, 11:13:30 AM »


What's the difference? They sound exactly the same.
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« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2009, 12:45:56 PM »

Egon Krenz

Wilhelm Pieck was a old style communist and i think he believe in all what he did. Egon Krenz was only a joke. In the 40ies and 50ies it was good to be a Stalinist, when you don't want to die this was important and this speaks against Pieck, but Krenz see that the communist system, Moscow style, don't work and what he did. He sends congratulations to Chinese Government that they kill all at the Tiananmen Square.

But being in Moscow during the great purges and being at the head of the Komintern in the 1930s-1940s doesn't speak well for him.
And he remained president until 1960 (with the 1953 Berlin uprising crushed), even though Ulbricht was the one in charge.

Therefor I prefer to eliminate those who were in charge and bad, like Pieck, than those who were no more in charge even if they were stupid and bad, like Krenz.


fab, you are right, but for me is a man who believe what he did and doesn't do extrem evil things not so bad, like a incompetent Apparatchik (i don't know i write it correct Wink) who fight for a idea with no future. By the way, Pieck hasn't the power in East Germany. The strong man was Ulbricht. He was only the symbol of the past (of the old KPD)

But you did write it correctly!
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« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2009, 05:56:41 PM »
« Edited: August 17, 2009, 06:15:32 PM by Wyatt Chеsney »


What's the difference? They sound exactly the same.
It's common in Polish to mark the same sound with more than one letter. I know Kalwejt will not like this, but most Polish orthographic problems can be solved if they switch to Cyrillic Wink

Вўадысўав Гомуўка?

A Hussite Latin alphabet would work well (Vwadyswav Gomuwka), and I'm not sure Cyrillic has enough diacritics.
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« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2009, 02:41:57 PM »

Ugh, meant to vote Husák. Will do that this round.
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« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2009, 05:06:20 PM »

Krenz
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« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2009, 11:41:39 AM »

Kadar

Of course, this will end as Dubček v. Nagy.
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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2009, 01:44:32 PM »

Kadar
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« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2009, 12:38:45 AM »

Kania, to break the tie.
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« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2009, 09:12:12 PM »

Kadar
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« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2009, 06:25:29 PM »

Kadar

I like Khrushchev. Sad
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