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« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2009, 10:11:36 pm »
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Poor Grant. Sad

Other than the initial sadness, how was the update?
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« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2009, 11:03:18 pm »
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Poor Grant. Sad

Other than the initial sadness, how was the update?

It was good.
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« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2009, 08:44:10 am »
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Solid Update, Happy Warrior...Can't say I was expecting Grant to be assasinated lol, but I guess it's better than the destitute, Cancer ridden death he had in OTL. Will Hannibal continue to stay the course with the war? I know he was a staunch abolitonist/Civil Rights Supporter but his old age may make him have a few military fumbles. I hope the war doesn't last to long, and that Hamlin is able to get somekind of Gilded Age Reform passed. Keep it comming.
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« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2009, 10:45:23 am »
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A very interesting update, and I look forward to the Hamlin Administration.
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« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2009, 01:52:48 pm »
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So when cane we epect the next installment SOEA?
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« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2009, 09:29:18 pm »
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So when cane we epect the next installment SOEA?

I've been very busy IRL, I'm getting ready for a move to college the 26th so hopefully soon....
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« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2009, 06:31:36 pm »
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I will finally be updating this TL either tomorrow or late tonight.
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« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2009, 12:22:20 pm »
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The First Term of Hannibal Hamlin


The Twenty First President at the time of his inauguration.

Hannibal Hamlin is sworn in hours after the death of Ulyssess S. Grant.  Quickly he meets with President Grant's Secretary of State, Robert Todd Lincoln as well as his old friend, Senate Majority Leader James G. Blaine, and Speaker of the House Joseph Warren Keifer.  Also involved in the meeting are the Secretary of War, William H. Hunt, Secretary of the Navy Chester Alan Arthur, and the leaders of the Democratic Party in the Congress.  This huge meeting is to commmunicate the President's wish for the entire nation to unite on the war in Santo Domingo.  Though Samuel J. Randall, former Democratic Speaker, storms out of the meeting in anger, being a strict isolationist, the rest of the leaders to agree that this is the best policy.

A few days after the assasination, President Grant is interred in Arlington National Cemetary, after a very tearful eulogy given by his son Fredrick Dent Grant, who had requested leave in order to attend the funeral.  However following his leave he returns to Florida to prepare to go to Hispanola.  Also present at the funeral is President Hamlin, many members of Congress, almost all of President Grant's various cabinet members are also in attendence.

In 1882 the actual invasion of Hispanola was launched.  Quickly the capital of Santo Domingo is captured with only 26 American casualties.  Also in that year the Chinese Exclusion Act was passed in order to keep out Chinese immigrants from the nation, despite the fact that they had long been great workers in the construction of the American West. And a new Immigration Act was passed putting forward a tax on all new immigrants to America.


Copy of the Chinese Exclusion Act

In Santo Domingo the war starts quite well with over half of the territory under the control of the United States military, this half being the more developed East.  However in the west the jungles offer an oppurtunity to guerrila rebels and militias.  The forests allow the rebels to survive.  Newly promoted Brigadier General George Armstrong Custer is sent to the west of the island to weed out these rebels, having survived the Indian Wars and managed quite a bit of success due to President Tilden's increased troop levels in the region.


General Custer at the time of the Domincan War.

President Hamlin also decides late in the year to not run for reelection in the 1884 leaving the race wide open....
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« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2009, 04:38:34 pm »
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How did Custer survive the Indian Wars? And I have to say I disagree with Tilden being one of the worst Presidents. I feel like this is waiting Bush's term out, electing Obama, and then REELECTING Bush because Obama is just four times as bad. Even your description of Tilden's term doesn't seem as bad as Grant's.

Either way, very interesting!
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« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2009, 05:01:35 pm »
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Interesting update; I'm looking forward to more Smiley
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« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2009, 06:32:03 pm »
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How did Custer survive the Indian Wars? And I have to say I disagree with Tilden being one of the worst Presidents. I feel like this is waiting Bush's term out, electing Obama, and then REELECTING Bush because Obama is just four times as bad. Even your description of Tilden's term doesn't seem as bad as Grant's.

Either way, very interesting!

I just like to add in one little weird thing in each TL.  In this one it is Custer surviving Wink
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« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2009, 07:42:23 pm »
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I almost started a timeline like this. You are doing a fine job HW!
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« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2009, 12:33:50 pm »
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The 1884 Election

Republican National Convention

The Republicans gathered in Chicago for a very celebratory convention in which they first have a single morbid day in remembrance of President Grant, saying that the convention is in his memory.  Following this the successes of the Grant/Hamlin administration were highlighted and within a couple of hours President Hamlin came forward to nominate his old friend James G. Blaine as the Republican nominee.  Despite minor opposition from Senator John A. Logan, Blaine was nominated on the first ballot.  He would nominate popular Secretary of the Navy Chester Alan Arthur for Vice President.  Heading into the election the Republicans would remain confident.

Democratic National Convention

The Democrats would also gather in Chicago, however their convention is much less happy and raucous.  Few truly capable candidates emerge.  Governor Grover Cleveland of New York was thought to be the best possible candidate that could have been in the race.  However Cleveland said early on that he would not run, knowing that the Democratic ticket would not be winning this election, his old friend and mentor, former President Tilden also gave him advice on this matter.  In the end Former Speaker Samuel J. Randall was nominated.  As his runningmate the party chose Allen G. Thurman.

The General Election Campaign

Throughout the election the Democrats would consistently focus on Senator Blaine's quite apparent corruption.  Though Randall's integrity is impeccable, the Democratic policies are still reviled after the Presidency of Samuel J. Tilden.  In the end the fear over a second term of President Tilden easily overcomes the corruption of Senator Blaine.  For the first time since the end of Reconstruction the Democrats lose a Southern state, Virginia.

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« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2009, 09:39:50 pm »
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Good Timeline.  Keep it going HW.
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« Reply #39 on: October 03, 2009, 07:24:45 pm »
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A very good, very interesting update, and I'm looking forward to the Blaine Administration.  How close was Virginia?
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« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2009, 07:32:05 pm »
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A very good, very interesting update, and I'm looking forward to the Blaine Administration.  How close was Virginia?

Razor thin margin of victory for Blaine in the state.
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« Reply #41 on: October 04, 2009, 03:46:50 pm »
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Interesting, I had originally thought you were going to give the GOP nomination to Robert Todd Lincoln. But it will be cool to see how corrupt the Blaine Presidency is going to be...I have a feeling he might become the 1st president to be impeached or atleast forced to resign. All of which remains to be seen...Keep it comming.
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« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2010, 12:51:57 am »
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BUMP. Someone should finish this TL. It is great so far.
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« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2010, 01:36:15 am »
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BUMP. Someone should finish this TL. It is great so far.

Would anyone else like to see this continue?
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« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2010, 01:40:05 am »
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BUMP. Someone should finish this TL. It is great so far.

Would anyone else like to see this continue?

I would.
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« Reply #45 on: January 25, 2010, 03:58:46 pm »
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BUMP. Someone should finish this TL. It is great so far.

Would anyone else like to see this continue?

I thought it was quite good.
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« Reply #46 on: January 26, 2010, 12:45:21 pm »
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Oh yes keep it going.
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« Reply #47 on: January 26, 2010, 02:36:41 pm »
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I will be returning to this TL
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« Reply #48 on: January 26, 2010, 04:17:54 pm »
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My thoughts exactly
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« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2010, 07:00:40 pm »
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He's so fat he makes President Taft look anorexic.
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