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Question: Check all that apply:
#1
I believe the world's average temperatures are getting warmer
 
#2
I believe that the warming patterns now are unprecedented in the historical record
 
#3
I believe that this warming is caused by an increase in CO2 in the atmosphere
 
#4
I believe that this increase in CO2 is caused by human industry
 
#5
At best, we have until 2050 to remedy this crisis
 
#6
At best, we only have 12 years before we do irreparable damage to our planet
 
#7
It's too late for us to fix this; our solutions now have to focus on mitigating the severity of climate change
 
#8
This problem cannot be solved solely through innovation; we need to reduce our personal consumption
 
#9
We need carbon taxes and caps on emissions
 
#10
We need subsidies to renewable energies like wind and solar
 
#11
Nuclear energy should be our prime focus, as it is the energy source of the future
 
#12
Small changes aren't enough; we need to completely reform our economy from the ground up
 
#13
Limiting population growth in western countries is an important part of the path forward
 
#14
Limiting population growth in developing nations is an important part of the path forward
 
#15
I support the Green New Deal and would like to see it implemented as policy
 
#16
We should be depopulating areas at sea level and establishing funds to help people in these regions relocate
 
#17
We need to cease oil production immediately
 
#18
We need to cease coal production immediately
 
#19
Plane travel should become far less common
 
#20
To decrease agricultural emissions, we should encourage vegetarian diets
 
#21
Insects are the food of the future; they provide protein and harvesting them is cheap and energy efficient
 
#22
We should be developing technology to remove CO2 from the atmosphere
 
#23
Personal automobiles should be phased out in favor of cleaner public transport
 
#24
Oil companies should be held legally culpable for the damage they've done to the planet
 
#25
None of the above
 
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John Dule
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E: 6.57, S: -7.50

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« on: September 24, 2019, 06:21:18 PM »

How many did you check off?
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John Dule
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2019, 12:41:27 AM »
« Edited: September 25, 2019, 01:45:05 AM by Smiling John »

Can someone who voted for the 30/12/0 years options please make their case in the comments? I hate being an "anti-science" guy, but I genuinely don't understand what the science is telling us here. You've got people like Biden saying we've got until 2050, Cortez is saying we have until 2030, and Andrew Yang is telling everyone that it's already too late and we need to head for the hills. I've studied climate change at my university but we only really delved into the causes (and how we know it's caused by us), not the timetable it's operating on. I have to say, it looks pretty stupid when multiple candidates say "I believe the science" and then they all offer up completely different interpretations for what the science is telling us.
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John Dule
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2019, 10:35:40 PM »

Oooh, we got a NOTA.
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John Dule
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2019, 11:23:59 PM »

Can someone who voted for the 30/12/0 years options please make their case in the comments? I hate being an "anti-science" guy, but I genuinely don't understand what the science is telling us here. You've got people like Biden saying we've got until 2050, Cortez is saying we have until 2030, and Andrew Yang is telling everyone that it's already too late and we need to head for the hills. I've studied climate change at my university but we only really delved into the causes (and how we know it's caused by us), not the timetable it's operating on. I have to say, it looks pretty stupid when multiple candidates say "I believe the science" and then they all offer up completely different interpretations for what the science is telling us.

I think the underlying idea here is "if we do X, then there's a Y% chance Z happens". I haven't paid too close attention to the debates or who's been saying what, but it sounds like Biden is saying that we need to accomplish ABC and XYZ by 2050 in order to stay within 2 C of warming, while Ocasio-Cortez is like "we have until 2030 to get to zero emissions or else we have no chance of staying within 2 C".

Yang seems to be focusing more on adapting to a changing climate, partly because the structural changes we would need to make in order to reach a +2 C world are at best mildly unrealistic, but more importantly because we've already locked in a certain amount of long-term climate change with the amount of greenhouse gases we've already put into the atmosphere. Even if we were to magically stop all CO2 emissions tomorrow, and atmospheric CO2 levels stayed constant for the next several hundred years- we would still be experiencing more heat waves, floods, droughts, and extreme weather than we did in the past. So there would still be some level of change to adapt to.

This makes sense. Thank you; these debates leave so little room for nuance.
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