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« Reply #125 on: July 03, 2013, 01:16:20 PM »

It wasn't respectful for his person. It was his seat, and Hanabusa was clearly the best candidate to fill this seat: US representative, Inouye's last wish,... I don't understand why we support Schatz just because he has successfully schemed with Rod Blagojevich Neil Abercrombie to be appointed US senator. People shouldn't do a successfully career because of their shenanigans.

Schatz is younger, more liberal, and hasn't had a rivalry with the other half of the Congressional delegation.
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« Reply #126 on: July 03, 2013, 01:19:40 PM »

It wasn't respectful for his person. It was his seat, and Hanabusa was clearly the best candidate to fill this seat: US representative, Inouye's last wish,... I don't understand why we support Schatz just because he has successfully schemed with Rod Blagojevich Neil Abercrombie to be appointed US senator. People shouldn't do a successfully career because of their shenanigans.
Ugh, no, it was NOT Inouye's seat. He was elected to it. He is dead now. While I think Abercrombie would have been better off respecting Inouye's wishes as well, I think it is shameful that Hanabusa feels it is now "her" seat and her actions have shown she is more undeserving of it than Schatz. Anyway, the people will decide.
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« Reply #127 on: July 03, 2013, 04:45:39 PM »

The seat doesn't belong to Schatz either. God forbid he actually face ONE competitive election to prove himself before having the seat for life (the main election in a Hawaii Senate race is obviously the Democratic primary).

Schatz isn't any more entitled to the seat than Hanabusa is. If he wins, then good. He earned it. But stop acting like Hanabusa shouldn't even run.
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« Reply #128 on: July 05, 2013, 12:00:37 AM »

No real Governor lets a corpse force his hand.

Not even Jesus?
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« Reply #129 on: July 05, 2013, 12:15:42 AM »


Especially not Jesus.
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« Reply #130 on: July 05, 2013, 01:12:21 AM »

The seat doesn't belong to Schatz either. God forbid he actually face ONE competitive election to prove himself before having the seat for life (the main election in a Hawaii Senate race is obviously the Democratic primary).

Schatz isn't any more entitled to the seat than Hanabusa is. If he wins, then good. He earned it. But stop acting like Hanabusa shouldn't even run.

I just don't see a good reason why she should run; she isn't running on policy, personality, or scandal, so what reason does she have for running? I hate to rehash this argument again, but honestly, what is she running on? "Leadership"? That's no reason to run. At least if she specifically pointed out that having an governor's appointee go unchallenged is bad, that'd be a reason (and a great reason at that).
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« Reply #131 on: July 05, 2013, 01:38:56 AM »


If you believe that Jesus is in any position to tell you what to do, generally--I don't want to say universally, but generally--you also believe that He's very much alive.
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« Reply #132 on: July 05, 2013, 01:50:45 AM »


If you believe that Jesus is in any position to tell you what to do, generally--I don't want to say universally, but generally--you also believe that He's very much alive.

Governor Jesus (D-NY)
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« Reply #133 on: July 05, 2013, 10:26:59 AM »

The seat doesn't belong to Schatz either.


*funny error, though
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« Reply #134 on: July 05, 2013, 05:59:18 PM »

The seat doesn't belong to Schatz either. God forbid he actually face ONE competitive election to prove himself before having the seat for life (the main election in a Hawaii Senate race is obviously the Democratic primary).

Schatz isn't any more entitled to the seat than Hanabusa is. If he wins, then good. He earned it. But stop acting like Hanabusa shouldn't even run.

Good point.

(I'm still supporting Schatz for the seat though.)
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« Reply #135 on: July 06, 2013, 08:56:36 PM »

The seat doesn't belong to Schatz either. God forbid he actually face ONE competitive election to prove himself before having the seat for life (the main election in a Hawaii Senate race is obviously the Democratic primary).

Schatz isn't any more entitled to the seat than Hanabusa is. If he wins, then good. He earned it. But stop acting like Hanabusa shouldn't even run.

Good point.

(I'm still supporting Schatz for the seat though.)
I never once said that Hanabusa should not run. I pointed out her arrogance and why it is dangerous for someone with that thinking to be in Washington.
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« Reply #136 on: July 06, 2013, 09:02:55 PM »

The seat doesn't belong to Schatz either. God forbid he actually face ONE competitive election to prove himself before having the seat for life (the main election in a Hawaii Senate race is obviously the Democratic primary).

Schatz isn't any more entitled to the seat than Hanabusa is. If he wins, then good. He earned it. But stop acting like Hanabusa shouldn't even run.
For once (and probably the last time), I agree with Becca. Granted, I think Abercrombie should have respected Inouye's wishes, but Schatz isn't entitled to this seat just because he won the appointment. A competitive primary gives Hawaii Democrats, not a handful of individuals, the power, which is where it should have been all along.
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« Reply #137 on: July 06, 2013, 11:48:16 PM »

The seat doesn't belong to Schatz either. God forbid he actually face ONE competitive election to prove himself before having the seat for life (the main election in a Hawaii Senate race is obviously the Democratic primary).

Schatz isn't any more entitled to the seat than Hanabusa is. If he wins, then good. He earned it. But stop acting like Hanabusa shouldn't even run.

I just don't see a good reason why she should run; she isn't running on policy, personality, or scandal, so what reason does she have for running? I hate to rehash this argument again, but honestly, what is she running on? "Leadership"? That's no reason to run. At least if she specifically pointed out that having an governor's appointee go unchallenged is bad, that'd be a reason (and a great reason at that).

I think she is, to an extent, running on personality.
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« Reply #138 on: July 07, 2013, 07:41:54 PM »


He looks like such a hoagie in this picture.
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« Reply #139 on: July 09, 2013, 02:30:45 PM »

He looks like such a hoagie in this picture.

...he looks like a sandwich?
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« Reply #140 on: July 09, 2013, 02:34:31 PM »

He looks like such a hoagie in this picture.

...he looks like a sandwich?

Color me puzzled too.
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« Reply #141 on: July 11, 2013, 11:32:17 PM »

Politico has a piece on this race, but its mostly stuff we already know.
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« Reply #142 on: July 11, 2013, 11:38:13 PM »

Wasn't Carol Moseley-Braun the last Dem who primaried an incumbent Senator and won the GE? I can't think of anyone more recent offhand.
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« Reply #143 on: July 12, 2013, 10:02:32 AM »

Wasn't Carol Moseley-Braun the last Dem who primaried an incumbent Senator and won the GE? I can't think of anyone more recent offhand.

Well, are we counting Lee vs. Bennett as a "primary?"
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« Reply #144 on: July 12, 2013, 10:03:17 AM »

Wasn't Carol Moseley-Braun the last Dem who primaried an incumbent Senator and won the GE? I can't think of anyone more recent offhand.

Well, are we counting Lee vs. Bennett as a "primary?"

Yeah, but they're not Dems. Tongue
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« Reply #145 on: July 12, 2013, 10:04:15 AM »

Wasn't Carol Moseley-Braun the last Dem who primaried an incumbent Senator and won the GE? I can't think of anyone more recent offhand.

Well, are we counting Lee vs. Bennett as a "primary?"

Yeah, but they're not Dems. Tongue

Oh. Whoops. Missed that little tidbit.  Tongue
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« Reply #146 on: July 12, 2013, 01:02:38 PM »

Wasn't Carol Moseley-Braun the last Dem who primaried an incumbent Senator and won the GE? I can't think of anyone more recent offhand.

Well, are we counting Lee vs. Bennett as a "primary?"

Yeah, but they're not Dems. Tongue

Well, according to some far-right lunatics in Utah....
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« Reply #147 on: July 12, 2013, 03:50:34 PM »


Not literally.
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« Reply #148 on: July 12, 2013, 05:12:28 PM »


I still don't get it...
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« Reply #149 on: July 12, 2013, 06:29:47 PM »

The seat doesn't belong to Schatz either. God forbid he actually face ONE competitive election to prove himself before having the seat for life (the main election in a Hawaii Senate race is obviously the Democratic primary).

Schatz isn't any more entitled to the seat than Hanabusa is. If he wins, then good. He earned it. But stop acting like Hanabusa shouldn't even run.
^^ This. Why should Abercrombie get to decide who is Senator for life from Hawaii? If Inouye doesn't have the right to decide his successor, neither does Abercrombie have the right to appoint someone for life. Schatz should be challenged and the people of Hawaii should get a choice.
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