France 2012: Official Results Thread

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Hey Languedoc-Roussillon still at it, damn it, Aude:

F. Hollande : 30,40%
M. Le Pen : 23,22%
N. Sarkozy : 21,63%
J-L. Mélenchon : 13,15%
F. Bayrou : 6,04%
E. Joly : 2,09%

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Yeah, France is a rural/middle cities country with one BIG of which all the other ones are fully dependent.

That's changing with time though, with political and cultural régionalization (that I don't all criticize), and the greatest development of regional cities.

With Le Pen doing insanely well, does that bode a shift from the usual pattern of the FN sucking at elections for the National Assembly?  With this much higher a level of support, surely it's nearing the tipping point where they'll start squeaking through even with France's electoral system.

Yep, that's what I was personally thinking, even before tonight's results, if only for MLP succeeding to do something in Hénin Beaumont, her big barking mouth in the Assembly would be something. That's done though, the 'Republican alliance' always happening against FN so far always worked very well. But who knows, those législatives élections could be quite interesting, at several levels...

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Yeah, France is a rural/middle cities country with one BIG of which all the other ones are fully dependent.

That's changing with time though, with political and cultural régionalization (that I don't all criticize), and the greatest development of regional cities.

With Le Pen doing insanely well, does that bode a shift from the usual pattern of the FN sucking at elections for the National Assembly?  With this much higher a level of support, surely it's nearing the tipping point where they'll start squeaking through even with France's electoral system.

Yep, that's what I was personally thinking, even before tonight's results, if only for MLP succeeding to do something in Hénin Beaumont, her big barking mouth in the Assembly would be something. That's done though, the 'Republican alliance' always happening against FN so far always worked very well. But who knows, those législatives élections could be quite interesting, at several levels...

Keyboard slip in tongue. . Hopefully not a 'revelatory one' as we say in French. Was suppposed to be 'That's not done', indeed.

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Neuilly-sur-Seine (Hauts-de-Seine, Sarkozy's stronghold):

Sarkozy 72,64%
Hollande 10,17%
François Bayrou 7,44%
Marine le Pen 4,99%
Jean-Luc Mélenchon 2,1%

Who can beat it!

Les Hauts-de-Seine, tu peux pas test'.

Why is Le Pen doing so well in eastern France?

Unemployment, for one thing.

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But it's at a higher level everywhere.

Yeah, in Castres, of which the results are almost the exact same ones than national ones, which uses to be more or less often the case iirc, which comfort me in seeing this city as a so typical provincial small French city, she does 18% then, while FN used to stay between 10 and 15.

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The big 4 is still to come: Paris Lyon Marseille Toulouse

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Electoral climate in Bretagne definitely is better than weather climate there (they might have to compensate, amusing that this is exact opposite in south-eastern France), Finistère:

F. Hollande : 33,70%
N. Sarkozy : 24,46%
M. Le Pen : 11,98%
J-L. Mélenchon : 11,52%
F. Bayrou : 11,27%
E. Joly : 2,95%
N. Dupont-Aignan : 1,78%
P. Poutou : 1,48%
N. Arthaud : 0,60%
J. Cheminade : 0,27%

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Hérault's such a leftist département! (...for Languedoc-Roussillon)

F. Hollande : 26,69%
N. Sarkozy : 25,31%
M. Le Pen : 22,28%
J-L. Mélenchon : 13,27%
F. Bayrou : 6,86%
E. Joly : 2,52%
N. Dupont-Aignan : 1,40%
P. Poutou : 1,03%
N. Arthaud : 0,40%
J. Cheminade : 0,23%

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Bretagne continues to show as a pleasant place:

Ille-et-Villaine

F. Hollande : 31,77%
N. Sarkozy : 26,02%
M. Le Pen : 12,39%
F. Bayrou : 12,35%
J-L. Mélenchon : 10,35%
E. Joly : 3,17%
N. Dupont-Aignan : 1,83%
P. Poutou : 1,22%
N. Arthaud : 0,67%
J. Cheminade : 0,24%

Best Bayrou score for a dpt?

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Benwah, Montpellier helps a lot for Hérault (Hollande 35%, Sarkozy 21,8%, Mélenchon 15,7%, Le Pen 13,7%, Bayrou 7,4%).

Yes, was thinking about trying to find Montpellier, thank you, not surprising, the big Mélenchon vote might be in part explained by the important student community there, we might have more or less the same thing in Toulouse.

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It also is significantly less nice than, say, Languedoc-Rousillon on most other terrains.

Just saying in case you'd ever be planning a holiday.

A case could be made for the French Mediterranean arch as a whole (which includes the seaside and its background) when it comes to political tendencies, well all what's in the Mediterranean climate, and when you see for example the South-West, which is one of the part in France in which the political tendencies are the 'sweetest', even for the part which is the closest from the Mediterranean arch, like the département in which I live, Tarn, but which is cut from Mediterranean climate by a few middle mountains, then that might be what I was saying, it's all about weather .

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Why are the rural areas of France so left-wing?

Which ones?

euh...yes...kinda what I was going to say...

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Just reading an article and I didn't realise that Melenchon's 100% tax thing was a real thing!

Indeed!

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Why are the rural areas of France so left-wing?

Which ones?

euh...yes...kinda what I was going to say...

It looks like most of them except for the eastern border areas.

Well, look at Aveyron, just for one...

I'm not a data junkie but rural might where the Right do the biggest in France, that's at least how it's culturally seen.

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Are Le Pen voters the most likely to sit the run-off out?

...and Bayrou's.

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What about Aveyron?

http://www.google.com/elections/ed/fr/results

it's the big pink one siding the 2 blue ones between Toulouse and Montpellier.

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Yay, Haute-Marne:

N. Sarkozy : 27,99%
M. Le Pen : 25,26%
F. Hollande : 23,75%
J-L. Mélenchon : 8,89%
F. Bayrou : 7,97%
N. Dupont-Aignan : 2,41%
E. Joly : 1,38%
P. Poutou : 1,33%
N. Arthaud : 0,79%
J. Cheminade : 0,24%

What about Aveyron?

http://www.google.com/elections/ed/fr/results

it's the big pink one siding the 2 blue ones between Toulouse and Montpellier.

And your point being...

...that in this very rural département in a quite leftist French région, Midi-Pyrénées, you can find about as much communes in blue than in pink...

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...that in this very rural département in a quite leftist French région, Midi-Pyrénées, you can find about as much communes in blue than in pink...

But Hollande still outperformed there and Sarko and Le Pen underperformed, overall. Is Herault, to its south, not in the same region? Hollande did far worse there and Le Pen far better, although Sarko about the same.

Yeah, that's what I was saying in my stuff about climate and Mediterranean arch, Aveyron is part of South-West, doesn't belong to the Mediterranean climate area.

And all those départements that you can see in blue in the western half of the country are also quite rural, well, just enjoy to pass your mouse on all dpts and if you have an idea of where are most of French agglomerations/urbanized parts, you might see that what you were saying wouldn't be necessarily true...

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Hollande's constituency is in the Corrèze department. The Poison Dwarf is very much an urban politician and can't help but come across as such (whenever he tries not to be so, the result is but a confirmation).

But almost all French departments have a massive rural element.

And a rather massive network of small cities too, but not necessarily close from each other, then we can't really speak of urbanized area, to sum it up France might have one of the lowest (if not the lowest?) urban density of Europe.

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Paris 18!

François Hollande 33.709 43,03%
Nicolas Sarkozy 15.253 19,47%
Jean-Luc Mélenchon 12.019 15,34% Indeed!
François Bayrou 6.059 7,74%
Marine Le Pen 5.150 6,57%
Eva Joly 4.238 5,41%
Philippe Poutou 716 0,91%
Nicolas Dupont-Aignan 675 0,86%
Nathalie Arthaud 318 0,41%
Jacques Cheminade 195 0,25%

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And to finish Bretagne, Morbihan shows as the most rightist:

F. Hollande : 28,29%
N. Sarkozy : 28,16%
M. Le Pen : 15,55%
F. Bayrou : 10,85%
J-L. Mélenchon : 10,24%
E. Joly : 2,81%
N. Dupont-Aignan : 1,85%
P. Poutou : 1,37%
N. Arthaud : 0,61%
J. Cheminade : 0,27%

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About Seine-Saint-Denis I remember having seen something from someone from there giving Mélenchon 2nd with 20% in La Courneuve, the 1st was Hollande iirc, but I can't find official results.

Anyways, places like Val-de-Marne and Seine-Saint-Denis would help JLM, but also some places of Paris (the bobos and rough ones), BdR/Marseille can still help MLP though.

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Dupont-Aignan wins Yerres

That's where he voted, I guess he lives/has a madate there or something then.

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Le Parisien has the following for Sein Saint Denis
Hollande 38.7
Sarkozy 19.5
Melenchon 17
Le Pen 13.5
Bayrou 6.1

Indeed.

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Surprised if Sarko won Rhône, but I don't know much about that area. Is Lyon a more rightist city than average?

Hmm, culturally yes, but who knows why the sane people of the city of Lyon choose the 'Socialist' Colomb for a while now...