OH-Gravis Marketing: The President now leads, 50-49

[Seriously?]

Romney wins Independents by 12

D+8 turnout, whoooo, someone let me know if it shows you guys winning with a D+3 turnout or better, then we have something to talk about.

Romney wins Independents by 12, lol.

Those independents are republicans in terms of voting and thinking. So, if they were honest about their ideology, they'd call theirselves "republicans", and you'd have a D+2 party ID and real  independents being split 50-50, not +12 Romney.

So, shut up.

Yeah, because one party has a monopoly on truthfulness. The Gallup numbers (both with self identified R/D/I and R or D), suggests otherwise. Gallup has it at about R+3 with a 7-8 point shift from '08. Rasmussen is very similar. It's not respondent truth defects by Republicans only.

[Seriously?]

Romney wins Independents by 12

D+8 turnout, whoooo, someone let me know if it shows you guys winning with a D+3 turnout or better, then we have something to talk about.

Romney wins Independents by 12, lol.

Those independents are republicans in terms of voting and thinking. So, if they were honest about their ideology, they'd call theirselves "republicans", and you'd have a D+2 party ID and real  independents being split 50-50, not +12 Romney.

So, shut up.

Yeah, because one party has a monopoly on truthfulness. The Gallup numbers (both with self identified R/D/I and R or D), suggests otherwise. Gallup has it at about R+3 with a 7-8 point shift from '08. Rasmussen is very similar. It's not respondent truth defects by Republicans only.

You do realize Gallup doesn't weigh by Party ID dont you?

Of course I do. Why were certain "Republican-leaning" polls off again in '08? Wouldn't be bad turnout assumptions modeled on '00 and '04, would it?

And before you ask, I am well aware where Ohio is on  the Cook PVI scale. Nothing that would suggest a D+8 with a R+3 national model.