The TrumpCare comes back from the dead (...and lives!) thread

[ApatheticAustrian]

The fun fact is btw, that congress is excluded from the waivers cause.....wait for it....DC is not a state.

[ApatheticAustrian]

i know linking it proves how much out of touch i am with the common folks, but watching the clusterfick this whole healthcare disaster has become, this scene just crawls into my mind every other day.....

https://youtu.be/nZCyyPhyGl8?t=158

[ApatheticAustrian]

his district voted trump + 46 points (!) and he has voted for AHCA in the committee.

this thing is DED.

[ApatheticAustrian]

Maybe you should change the name of the thread? :-D

yes, plz and the new law is so bizarre, i pray it gets passed,.......

it makes it more reasonable NOT to buy insurance and the public is still paying more....

[ApatheticAustrian]

Republicans won't rest until they kill off everyone who isn't dirty wealthy.

well, the 8 bn are basically "nothing" but even if the would double that sum again, it would be a subsidy without any incentive to buy insurance, since risk-corridor "victims" are helped, which means: you shouldn't buy insurance anyway  .....bizarre law.

[ApatheticAustrian]

Does anyone have an estimated whip count.

i recommend you to follow matt fuller like everybody else.

https://twitter.com/mepfuller?lang=de

[ApatheticAustrian]

i follow the philosophy of manchin:

the people don't know why they got coverage but they will know who took it away.

[ApatheticAustrian]

I think the tide may have shifted in the House, and opposition has softened. Right now, I think this may actually pass the House.

has nothing to do with "tides", moderates are softer than hardcores mostly anyway and the GOP is mostly throwing money at the problem, until they somehow get exactly the number of votes they need.

not going anywhere anyway but will be costly....

[ApatheticAustrian]

This feels like watching the Trump campaign in 2016. It's very entertaining to watch it drag on and destroy the party but every day longer it lives brings it closer to the cataclysm of actual passage.

look at it like that:

the longer they waste with this time-bomb-bill, the less damaga they can do otherwise.

[ApatheticAustrian]

current whip-count.

https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/859938496668196864

[ApatheticAustrian]

Why is Matt Fuller assuming the undecideds break so much for the YES side?

he knows all players, watches how people react while getting "whipped" and assumes, many people only call themselves "undecided" cause they don't want to get flak.

and to be fair....the house leadership wouldn't make such positive noises about tomorrow without getting a lot of positive results, imho.

[ApatheticAustrian]

was obamacare important for nevada?

[ApatheticAustrian]

i love it, how all the criticism about Ocare is coming back with a grudge and all faults are repeated in even worse ways.

who is pushing this madness?

[ApatheticAustrian]

would this really go to the floor, if they weren't sure about the outcome?

[ApatheticAustrian]

Pelosi:
"Someone asked me, 'Why dont you stop them?' B/c we want them to define themselves ...They will walk this plank for nothing"
https://twitter.com/JStein_Vox/status/860166603446652928

[ApatheticAustrian]

According to Tim Alberta, Paul Ryan is amazingly nervous, can't sit or stand still....

[ApatheticAustrian]

Unpopular Opinion:

I like Nancy Pelosi.

she is SUPER effective.

like ....even more unpopular opinion....turtleneck ( R - KY)

[ApatheticAustrian]

this won't pass the senate but they could ofc push it through by making reconciliation into magic sauce to solve ANYTHING.

this would give democrats ENDLESS power.

[ApatheticAustrian]

What are they voting on now?

exemption of congress from HC bill it says on c-span.

[ApatheticAustrian]

And Hurd wasn't even on the "Unsure" or "Lean Yes" lists as far as I can tell.

he was on fuller's lean yes list.

[ApatheticAustrian]

If victorious, Republicans will be having a big press conference at the beautiful Rose Garden of the White House immediately after vote!
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/860194183797243904?p=v


@ronnie...according to their excuses, cause DC isn't a state.

[ApatheticAustrian]

2 democrats wishing to help republican suicide?

[ApatheticAustrian]

so.....what will it be?

almighty reconciliation or senate doom?

[ApatheticAustrian]

once again...what is your take?

is reconciliation becoming all-powerful or is this thing just d00med?

[ApatheticAustrian]

Let's just hope that the people who die in the next few years are disproportionately Trump voters instead of people who didn't vote for any of this.

Thanks for 2018, Pubs.

nana, don't get nasty, trump voters have had pretty hard lives to start with and are getting screwed the most now anyway, in places lik AK/WV, etc.....no need to wish for deaths.