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« Reply #1700 on: March 05, 2018, 02:02:41 AM »

Can somebody please explain what is going on in the Lucca collegio uninominale?

To wit, the center-left candidate has 26,51%, the M5S has 26,05%, while the center-right candidate has 19,97%... and the eletto sign next to his name. How does this happen?

I see the right at 28,38%.

It's updated. Now there's 2 Riccardo Zucconis, both with the center-right coalition - one at 28,38, who's been elected and one at 9,71. Seems like a website hiccup. Although isn't 285 / 338 a bit early to call the election when the lead is just over 2000 votes (if the upper Riccardo Zucconi is the correct one)?

EDIT: And now the two Zucconis have merged and the lead is actually 16000 votes. Somehow the parties of the Right must have been counted separately.
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« Reply #1701 on: March 05, 2018, 02:23:48 AM »

Can somebody please explain what is going on in the Lucca collegio uninominale?

To wit, the center-left candidate has 26,51%, the M5S has 26,05%, while the center-right candidate has 19,97%... and the eletto sign next to his name. How does this happen?

I see the right at 28,38%.

It's updated. Now there's 2 Riccardo Zucconis, both with the center-right coalition - one at 28,38, who's been elected and one at 9,71. Seems like a website hiccup. Although isn't 285 / 338 a bit early to call the election when the lead is just over 2000 votes (if the upper Riccardo Zucconi is the correct one)?

EDIT: And now the two Zucconis have merged and the lead is actually 16000 votes. Somehow the parties of the Right must have been counted separately.

The website has been making a similar mistake occasionally when updating candidates. It typically fixes itself after a while.
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« Reply #1702 on: March 05, 2018, 02:34:42 AM »

Not quite a Hamon bad performance, but close to Schulz bad.
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« Reply #1703 on: March 05, 2018, 03:54:38 AM »

Soo... Is there a chance that the Italian people will awaken from this madness of supporting fascists and clueless populists next election? Aka, can the PD still emerge at the top next time if the new, presumably populist government fails?
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« Reply #1704 on: March 05, 2018, 04:16:02 AM »
« Edited: March 05, 2018, 07:10:43 AM by Andrea »

PD and allies hold up decently in the city of Milan given how bad they performed elsewhere. They are carrying 3 out of 6 FPTP constituencies at the House (Tobacci, Quartapelle and Mor) and 1 out of 3 Senate races (Tommaso Cerno elected).

PD hold 2 out of 5 FPTP seats in Turin at the House and 1 out of 2 at the Senate.

Minniti has lost his FPTP race in Pesaro. Franceschini has lost in Ferrara.

Padoan has won in Siena by 4%.
Casini elected in Bologna.
Bonino and Madia are leading in their Roman races.

At the Senate PD has lost Modena, Ferrara, Rimini.
They have survived in Ravenna. Reggio and Modena are too close to call.

At the House, they won Scandiano by a small margin. They seem to be ahead in Reggio. Lorenzin looks safe in Modena. They have won the 4 Bologna seats. They should hold Ravenna, Imola and Forlė.  They lost everything else in Emilia Romagna.


In Tuscany, PD held Florence and Sesto Fiorentino. Nencini held Arezzo-Siena constituency by the skin of his teeth. They lost Prato and they are behind in Livorno (gap looks too big to be overturned with few polling stations left to report) and Pisa (still close).
Same story at the House. They win Florence, Sesto Fiorentino and Empoli. Padoan in Siena. Held Livorno. Lost everything else

PD lost every FPTP seat in Marche and Umbria
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« Reply #1705 on: March 05, 2018, 04:27:53 AM »

Honestly, I'm not worried at all.

M5S is a heavily corrupt party that tried to join the most pro european group in the parliament. So I can't say I'm worried lmao
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« Reply #1706 on: March 05, 2018, 04:35:30 AM »

How many votes are already counted?
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« Reply #1707 on: March 05, 2018, 04:41:37 AM »


56928 out of 61401 polling stations at the House

57708 out of  61401 polling stations at the House
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« Reply #1708 on: March 05, 2018, 04:44:24 AM »

Only half of those who voted PD in the 2014 European Elections voted for PD again. 15.6% did not vote. 34.2% voted for other parties, of those half voted for M5S.

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« Reply #1709 on: March 05, 2018, 06:35:42 AM »

Confirmed FPTP Senate Seats winners so far. 20 seats from Veneto, VALLE D'AOSTA, UMBRIA, MARCHE, LIGURIA, FRIULI-VENEZIA GIULIA. There are 116 FPTP senate seats.

Centre-right 15
Lega 7
Forza Italia 4
FdI 3
NcI-UDC 1

M5S 4

Centre-left 1
UV (Valle d'Aosta) 1
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« Reply #1710 on: March 05, 2018, 07:12:33 AM »

Renzi resigns as head of PD.
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« Reply #1711 on: March 05, 2018, 07:14:46 AM »

Molise and Puglio done now as well. 9 more seats, all M5S.

Centre-right 15
Lega 7
Forza Italia 4
FdI 3
NcI-UDC 1

M5S 13

Centre-left 1
UV (Valle d'Aosta) 1
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« Reply #1712 on: March 05, 2018, 07:37:57 AM »

With 60,331 of 61,414 precincts counted, the results for the lower house look as follows:

Center-right 37%
- Lega 17.6%
- Forza Italia 14.1%
- Fratelli d'Italia 4.4%

M5S 32.6%

Center-left 22.3%
- PD 18.7%
- +Europa 2.6%

Liberi e Uguali 3.4%

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Potere al Popolo 1.1%

Casaspound 0.9%
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« Reply #1713 on: March 05, 2018, 07:45:17 AM »

Lega still bigger than FI in both Lazio 1 and Lazio 2.
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« Reply #1714 on: March 05, 2018, 07:46:48 AM »

Lega still bigger than FI in both Lazio 1 and Lazio 2.

Yes, but in the Senate race for Lazio FI is slightly larger.
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« Reply #1715 on: March 05, 2018, 07:52:15 AM »

Trentino-Alto Adige now finished. 6 seats more.

Centre-right 18
Lega 7
Forza Italia 6
FdI 4
NcI-UDC 1

M5S 13

Centre-left 4
PD 1
SVP 2
UV (Valle d'Aosta) 1
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« Reply #1716 on: March 05, 2018, 08:23:35 AM »

Abruzzo, Basilicata, Piemonte finished. 11 additional seats.

Centre-right 26
Lega 9
Forza Italia 10
FdI 5
NcI-UDC 2

M5S 15

Centre-left 5
PD 2
SVP 2
UV (Valle d'Aosta) 1
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« Reply #1717 on: March 05, 2018, 09:03:04 AM »

Campania and Sicilia finished. 20 additional seats, all M5S.

Centre-right 26
Lega 9
Forza Italia 10
FdI 5
NcI-UDC 2

M5S 35

Centre-left 5
PD 2
SVP 2
UV (Valle d'Aosta) 1
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« Reply #1718 on: March 05, 2018, 09:03:38 AM »

Is this FPTP or the Senate?

Campania and Sicilia finished. 20 additional seats, all M5S.
Expected, but still: wow.
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« Reply #1719 on: March 05, 2018, 09:07:20 AM »

The Guardian is reporting that PD is ending up with 18.9%. If so, wow.
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« Reply #1720 on: March 05, 2018, 09:12:44 AM »


The Senate FPTP seats. There are 116. Once they have all been finished, the 193 proportional senate seats should also be confirmed.
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« Reply #1721 on: March 05, 2018, 09:19:19 AM »

Oh, I was not aware that the Senate is also elected through a mixed-member majoritarian system. Thanks.
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« Reply #1722 on: March 05, 2018, 09:30:18 AM »

Campania and Sicilia finished. 20 additional seats, all M5S.

Centre-right 26
Lega 9
Forza Italia 10
FdI 5
NcI-UDC 2

M5S 35

Centre-left 5
PD 2
SVP 2
UV (Valle d'Aosta) 1

The big ones left are

TOSCANA and EMILIA-ROMAGNA: most likely evenly split between Center-Right and Center-Left
LAZIO: Mostly Center-Right
LOMBARDIA:  Most likely near Center-Right (really Lega) sweep
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« Reply #1723 on: March 05, 2018, 09:34:46 AM »

I noticed in TRENTINO-ALTO ADIGE in some seats (both Lower House and Senate) SVP-PATT ran separately from the Center-Left alliance.  So it seems that the election law does allow for alliances on a district by district basis.  Is this because Trentino-South Tyrol is an autonomous region so they get an exemption from the election law or does the new election law allows for imperfect alliances ?
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« Reply #1724 on: March 05, 2018, 09:56:45 AM »

I noticed in TRENTINO-ALTO ADIGE in some seats (both Lower House and Senate) SVP-PATT ran separately from the Center-Left alliance.  So it seems that the election law does allow for alliances on a district by district basis.  Is this because Trentino-South Tyrol is an autonomous region so they get an exemption from the election law or does the new election law allows for imperfect alliances ?

the electoral law for TAA  has special rules
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