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« Reply #200 on: January 30, 2010, 10:21:12 AM »

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« Reply #201 on: February 01, 2010, 10:36:42 PM »

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« Reply #202 on: February 02, 2010, 03:05:32 AM »



1. Bernardino Rivadavia (1826-1827)
2. Vicente López y Planes (1827)
3. Manuel Dorrego (1827-1828)
4. Juan Lavalle (1828-1829)
5. Juan José Viamonte (1829, 1833-1834)
6. Juan Manuel de Rosas (1829-1832, 1835-1852)
7. Juan Ramón Balcarce (1832-1833)
8. Manuel Vicente Maza (1834-1835)
9. Justo José de Urquiza (1852-1860)
10. Santiago Derqui (1860-1861)
11. Juan Esteban Pedernera (1861)
12. Bartolomé Mitre (1862-1868)
13. Domingo Faustino Sarmiento (1868-1874)
14. Nicolás Avellaneda (1874-1880)
15. Julio Argentino Roca (1880-1886, 1898-1904)
16. Miguel Juárez Celman (1886-1890)
17. Carlos Pellegrini (1890-1892)
18. Luis Sáenz Peña (1892-1895)
19. José Evaristo Uriburu (1895-1898)
20. Manuel Quintana (1904-1906)
21. José Figueroa Alcorta (1906-1910)
22. Roque Sáenz Peña (1910-1914)
23. Victorino de la Plaza (1914-1916)
24. Hipólito Yrigoyen (1916-1922, 1928-1930)
25. Marcelo Torcuato de Alvear (1922-1928)
26. José Félix Uriburu (1930-1932)
27. Agustín Pedro Justo (1932-1938)
28. Roberto María Ortiz (1938-1942)
29. Ramón Castillo (1942-1943)
30. Arturo Rawson (1943)
31. Pedro Pablo Ramírez (1943-1944)
32. Edelmiro Julián Farrell (1944-1946)
33. Juan Domingo Perón (1946-1955, 1973-1974)
34. José Domingo Molina Gómez (1955)
35. Eduardo Lonardi (1955)
36. Pedro Eugenio Aramburu (1955-1958)
37. Arturo Frondizi (1958-1962)
38. José Maria Guido (1962-1963)
39. Arturo Umberto Illia (1963-1966)
40. Juan Carlos Onganía (1966-1970)
41. Roberto Levingston (1970-1971)
42. Alejandro Lanusse (1971-1973)
43. Héctor José Campora (1973)
44. Raúl Alberto Lastiri (1973)
45. Isabel Perón (1974-1976)
46. Jorge Rafael Videla (1976-1980)
47. Roberto Eduardo Viola (1980-1981)
48. Leopoldo Galtieri (1981-1982)
49. Reynaldo Bignone (1982-1983)
50. Raúl Alfonsín (1983-1989)
51. Carlos Menem (1989-1999)
52. Fernando de la Rúa (1999-2001)
53. Adolfo Rodríguez Saá (2001)
54. Eduardo Duhalde (2002-2003)
55. Néstor Kirchner (2003-2007)
56. Cristina Fernández de Kirchner (2007-…)

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Round one: Videla 7, J.F. Uriburu 4, Viola 2, Aramburu 1, Rosas 1, Menem 1
Round two: Aramburu 4, Rosas 4, Viola 2, Ongania 1, Roca 1
Round three: Roca 3, Viola 3, Ongania 2, Lavalle 2, Sarmiento 1, Mitre 1, Galtieri 1, Bignone 1
Round four: Ongania 5, Lavalle 2 (2 in previous rounds), Isabel Peron 2 (0 in previous rounds), Galtieri 1, Sarmiento 1, Urquiza 1
Round five: Isabel Peron 5, Ramirez 3, Galtieri 1, Sarmiento 1
Round six: Galtieri 4, Farrell 3, Sarmiento 1, Urquiza 1, Guido 1, Lanusse 1, Levingston 1
Round seven: Lanusse 5, Levingston 5, Urquiza 2, Sarmiento 1, Guido 1
Round eight: Molina Gomez 5, Guido 2 (2 in previous rounds), Rawson 2 (0 in previous rounds), Justo 2 (0 in previous rounds), Urquiza 1
Round nine: Rawson 5, Justo 5, Urquiza 1, Pedernera 1
Round ten: Urquiza 5, Lastiri 4, Pedernera 2, Lonardi 1
Round eleven: Bignone 4, Pedernera 3 (3 in previous rounds), Lonardi 3 (1 in previous rounds), Juarez Celman 1, Quintana 1
Round twelve: Juarez Celman 5, Lonardi 4, Quintana 1, Campora 1, Castillo 1
Round thirteen: Campora 4, Quintana 3, Castillo 1, C. Kirchner 1, Menem 1
Round fourteen: J.E. Uriburu 4, Balcarce 2 (0 in previous rounds+Caudillo's decision), Figueroa Alcorta 2 (0 in previous rounds), Castillo 1, Menem 1, Torcuato de Alvear 1, Lopez y Planes 1
Round fifteen: Figueroa Alcorta 4, Lopez y Planes 4, Castillo 2, Menem 1, Maza 1
Round sixteen: Maza 5, Castillo 2 (5 in previous rounds), Torcuato de Alvear 2 (1 in previous rounds), Rodriguez Saa 1
Round seventeen: Rodriguez Saa 3, de la Rua 3, Torcuato de Alvear 1, Menem 1, Pellegrini 1, Dorrego 1
Round eighteen: Luis Saenz Pena 3, Dorrego 3, Viamonte 2, Pellegrini 1, Derqui 1
Round nineteen: Viamonte 5, Pellegrini 4, Menem 3
Round twenty: C. Kirchner 5, Menem 4, Derqui 2, Torcuato de Alvear 1
Round twenty-one: Derqui 6, Torcuato de Alvear 3, Mitre 1, Avellaneda 1, Duhalde 1
Round twenty-two: de la Plaza 3, Mitre 2 (2 in previous rounds), Avellaneda 2 (1 in previous rounds), Duhalde 2 (1 in previous rounds), N. Kirchner 2 (0 in previous rounds), R. Saenz Pena 1
Round twenty-three: Avellaneda 6, N. Kirchner 3, R. Saenz Pena 2, J. Peron 1
Round twenty-four: Roque Saenz Pena 2 (3 in previous rounds), J. Peron 2 (1 in previous rounds), Rivadavia 2 (0 in previous rounds)

In each round, you vote for the presidents or head of state you want to eliminate.
In case of a tie, the president who has received the biggest total of votes in previous rounds is eliminated. In case of a new tie, I, Caudillo of this Survivor, will decide.
Each round is open for 24 hours+

ROUND TWENTY-FIVE IS OPEN !
Vote away !

Beware ! Now you've got only 1 vote !
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« Reply #203 on: February 02, 2010, 03:08:01 AM »

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« Reply #204 on: February 02, 2010, 04:39:40 AM »

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« Reply #205 on: February 02, 2010, 08:09:54 AM »

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« Reply #206 on: February 02, 2010, 10:40:19 AM »

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« Reply #207 on: February 02, 2010, 02:02:29 PM »

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« Reply #208 on: February 03, 2010, 02:25:04 PM »

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« Reply #209 on: February 04, 2010, 03:47:26 AM »



1. Bernardino Rivadavia (1826-1827)
2. Vicente López y Planes (1827)
3. Manuel Dorrego (1827-1828)
4. Juan Lavalle (1828-1829)
5. Juan José Viamonte (1829, 1833-1834)
6. Juan Manuel de Rosas (1829-1832, 1835-1852)
7. Juan Ramón Balcarce (1832-1833)
8. Manuel Vicente Maza (1834-1835)
9. Justo José de Urquiza (1852-1860)
10. Santiago Derqui (1860-1861)
11. Juan Esteban Pedernera (1861)
12. Bartolomé Mitre (1862-1868)
13. Domingo Faustino Sarmiento (1868-1874)
14. Nicolás Avellaneda (1874-1880)
15. Julio Argentino Roca (1880-1886, 1898-1904)
16. Miguel Juárez Celman (1886-1890)
17. Carlos Pellegrini (1890-1892)
18. Luis Sáenz Peña (1892-1895)
19. José Evaristo Uriburu (1895-1898)
20. Manuel Quintana (1904-1906)
21. José Figueroa Alcorta (1906-1910)
22. Roque Sáenz Peña (1910-1914)
23. Victorino de la Plaza (1914-1916)
24. Hipólito Yrigoyen (1916-1922, 1928-1930)
25. Marcelo Torcuato de Alvear (1922-1928)
26. José Félix Uriburu (1930-1932)
27. Agustín Pedro Justo (1932-1938)
28. Roberto María Ortiz (1938-1942)
29. Ramón Castillo (1942-1943)
30. Arturo Rawson (1943)
31. Pedro Pablo Ramírez (1943-1944)
32. Edelmiro Julián Farrell (1944-1946)
33. Juan Domingo Perón (1946-1955, 1973-1974)
34. José Domingo Molina Gómez (1955)
35. Eduardo Lonardi (1955)
36. Pedro Eugenio Aramburu (1955-1958)
37. Arturo Frondizi (1958-1962)
38. José Maria Guido (1962-1963)
39. Arturo Umberto Illia (1963-1966)
40. Juan Carlos Onganía (1966-1970)
41. Roberto Levingston (1970-1971)
42. Alejandro Lanusse (1971-1973)
43. Héctor José Campora (1973)
44. Raúl Alberto Lastiri (1973)
45. Isabel Perón (1974-1976)
46. Jorge Rafael Videla (1976-1980)
47. Roberto Eduardo Viola (1980-1981)
48. Leopoldo Galtieri (1981-1982)
49. Reynaldo Bignone (1982-1983)
50. Raúl Alfonsín (1983-1989)
51. Carlos Menem (1989-1999)
52. Fernando de la Rúa (1999-2001)
53. Adolfo Rodríguez Saá (2001)
54. Eduardo Duhalde (2002-2003)
55. Néstor Kirchner (2003-2007)
56. Cristina Fernández de Kirchner (2007-…)

ResultsSad
Round one: Videla 7, J.F. Uriburu 4, Viola 2, Aramburu 1, Rosas 1, Menem 1
Round two: Aramburu 4, Rosas 4, Viola 2, Ongania 1, Roca 1
Round three: Roca 3, Viola 3, Ongania 2, Lavalle 2, Sarmiento 1, Mitre 1, Galtieri 1, Bignone 1
Round four: Ongania 5, Lavalle 2 (2 in previous rounds), Isabel Peron 2 (0 in previous rounds), Galtieri 1, Sarmiento 1, Urquiza 1
Round five: Isabel Peron 5, Ramirez 3, Galtieri 1, Sarmiento 1
Round six: Galtieri 4, Farrell 3, Sarmiento 1, Urquiza 1, Guido 1, Lanusse 1, Levingston 1
Round seven: Lanusse 5, Levingston 5, Urquiza 2, Sarmiento 1, Guido 1
Round eight: Molina Gomez 5, Guido 2 (2 in previous rounds), Rawson 2 (0 in previous rounds), Justo 2 (0 in previous rounds), Urquiza 1
Round nine: Rawson 5, Justo 5, Urquiza 1, Pedernera 1
Round ten: Urquiza 5, Lastiri 4, Pedernera 2, Lonardi 1
Round eleven: Bignone 4, Pedernera 3 (3 in previous rounds), Lonardi 3 (1 in previous rounds), Juarez Celman 1, Quintana 1
Round twelve: Juarez Celman 5, Lonardi 4, Quintana 1, Campora 1, Castillo 1
Round thirteen: Campora 4, Quintana 3, Castillo 1, C. Kirchner 1, Menem 1
Round fourteen: J.E. Uriburu 4, Balcarce 2 (0 in previous rounds+Caudillo's decision), Figueroa Alcorta 2 (0 in previous rounds), Castillo 1, Menem 1, Torcuato de Alvear 1, Lopez y Planes 1
Round fifteen: Figueroa Alcorta 4, Lopez y Planes 4, Castillo 2, Menem 1, Maza 1
Round sixteen: Maza 5, Castillo 2 (5 in previous rounds), Torcuato de Alvear 2 (1 in previous rounds), Rodriguez Saa 1
Round seventeen: Rodriguez Saa 3, de la Rua 3, Torcuato de Alvear 1, Menem 1, Pellegrini 1, Dorrego 1
Round eighteen: Luis Saenz Pena 3, Dorrego 3, Viamonte 2, Pellegrini 1, Derqui 1
Round nineteen: Viamonte 5, Pellegrini 4, Menem 3
Round twenty: C. Kirchner 5, Menem 4, Derqui 2, Torcuato de Alvear 1
Round twenty-one: Derqui 6, Torcuato de Alvear 3, Mitre 1, Avellaneda 1, Duhalde 1
Round twenty-two: de la Plaza 3, Mitre 2 (2 in previous rounds), Avellaneda 2 (1 in previous rounds), Duhalde 2 (1 in previous rounds), N. Kirchner 2 (0 in previous rounds), R. Saenz Pena 1
Round twenty-three: Avellaneda 6, N. Kirchner 3, R. Saenz Pena 2, J. Peron 1
Round twenty-four: Roque Saenz Pena 2 (3 in previous rounds), J. Peron 2 (1 in previous rounds), Rivadavia 2 (0 in previous rounds)
Round twenty-five: Rivadavia 4, J. Peron 2

In each round, you vote for the presidents or head of state you want to eliminate.
In case of a tie, the president who has received the biggest total of votes in previous rounds is eliminated. In case of a new tie, I, Caudillo of this Survivor, will decide.
Each round is open for 24 hours+

ROUND TWENTY-SIX IS OPEN !
Vote away !

Beware ! Now you've got only 1 vote !
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« Reply #210 on: February 04, 2010, 04:02:07 AM »

Peron has deserved to be eliminated for some rounds now, but I don't want to vote for him: it's a game, after all Wink.

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« Reply #211 on: February 04, 2010, 04:52:56 AM »

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« Reply #212 on: February 04, 2010, 08:05:14 AM »

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« Reply #213 on: February 04, 2010, 10:28:15 AM »

Peron

*Sigh* Both Peron and Sarmiento in the final five?
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« Reply #214 on: February 04, 2010, 10:54:14 AM »
« Edited: February 04, 2010, 10:57:03 AM by big bad fab »

Peron

*Sigh* Both Peron and Sarmiento in the final five?

I can speak only for me: Sarmiento will come soon.
Peron, well, is good to be "used" at any time Wink. If I want my... "favourites" (I don't have real ones, in fact...) to win.

But I don't know what Edu will do (Hash, Hughento and me are the "old school" Peronistats Grin, but Edu has hidden his real choice for the moment... and that's a good thing !).
So, you may have an opportunity to oust Peron before the top 5.

Oh, I'm writing all those tactics whereas, in fact, I don't think like this when voting...



BTW, even if it's not very kind to other voters and may lead to a small revolt, what would you think, Gully, Hash, Hans, Edu, Hughento (PiT has dropped of the survivors), of a "special" rule that would prevent other voters from taking part in this survivor in the last 5 rounds ?

After all, you are the regular voters and maybe you wouldn't want "outsiders" to put the mess in the final rounds, after so many fine votes ?

Just an idea, just a question.
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« Reply #215 on: February 04, 2010, 01:25:09 PM »

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« Reply #216 on: February 04, 2010, 04:10:13 PM »

Same situation as in the previous round: Edu will decide: Peron is ousted in a tie with Ortiz; Peron is safe if Edu votes Ortiz.
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« Reply #217 on: February 04, 2010, 09:54:29 PM »

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I think Peron was a better president than a lot of people give him credit (and there are also a lot of misconceptions about him) but the real problem was when he was out of power (for instance his support of both the far left and far right wings of the party which contributed a lot to the political instability of the 60's and 70's) and his disastrous third term (especially his entourage Tongue). I like that he got this far because i think his first 2 terms (well, 1 and a half) were pretty good, especially the first, and because he was hugely influential on our politics since the 40's, but he shouldn't really stay much longer thanks to a lot of the other things he did after he was thrown out. I'm strongly considering eliminating him next round.

And about fab suggestion i must say that i don't think "outsiders" will start voting in the final rounds if they haven't started doing it by now Tongue

After Ortiz goes i reckon that in the next 2 rounds I'll vote for Peron and either Sarmiento or Duhalde.
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« Reply #218 on: February 05, 2010, 02:43:01 AM »



1. Bernardino Rivadavia (1826-1827)
2. Vicente López y Planes (1827)
3. Manuel Dorrego (1827-1828)
4. Juan Lavalle (1828-1829)
5. Juan José Viamonte (1829, 1833-1834)
6. Juan Manuel de Rosas (1829-1832, 1835-1852)
7. Juan Ramón Balcarce (1832-1833)
8. Manuel Vicente Maza (1834-1835)
9. Justo José de Urquiza (1852-1860)
10. Santiago Derqui (1860-1861)
11. Juan Esteban Pedernera (1861)
12. Bartolomé Mitre (1862-1868)
13. Domingo Faustino Sarmiento (1868-1874)
14. Nicolás Avellaneda (1874-1880)
15. Julio Argentino Roca (1880-1886, 1898-1904)
16. Miguel Juárez Celman (1886-1890)
17. Carlos Pellegrini (1890-1892)
18. Luis Sáenz Peña (1892-1895)
19. José Evaristo Uriburu (1895-1898)
20. Manuel Quintana (1904-1906)
21. José Figueroa Alcorta (1906-1910)
22. Roque Sáenz Peña (1910-1914)
23. Victorino de la Plaza (1914-1916)
24. Hipólito Yrigoyen (1916-1922, 1928-1930)
25. Marcelo Torcuato de Alvear (1922-1928)
26. José Félix Uriburu (1930-1932)
27. Agustín Pedro Justo (1932-1938)
28. Roberto María Ortiz (1938-1942)
29. Ramón Castillo (1942-1943)
30. Arturo Rawson (1943)
31. Pedro Pablo Ramírez (1943-1944)
32. Edelmiro Julián Farrell (1944-1946)
33. Juan Domingo Perón (1946-1955, 1973-1974)
34. José Domingo Molina Gómez (1955)
35. Eduardo Lonardi (1955)
36. Pedro Eugenio Aramburu (1955-1958)
37. Arturo Frondizi (1958-1962)
38. José Maria Guido (1962-1963)
39. Arturo Umberto Illia (1963-1966)
40. Juan Carlos Onganía (1966-1970)
41. Roberto Levingston (1970-1971)
42. Alejandro Lanusse (1971-1973)
43. Héctor José Campora (1973)
44. Raúl Alberto Lastiri (1973)
45. Isabel Perón (1974-1976)
46. Jorge Rafael Videla (1976-1980)
47. Roberto Eduardo Viola (1980-1981)
48. Leopoldo Galtieri (1981-1982)
49. Reynaldo Bignone (1982-1983)
50. Raúl Alfonsín (1983-1989)
51. Carlos Menem (1989-1999)
52. Fernando de la Rúa (1999-2001)
53. Adolfo Rodríguez Saá (2001)
54. Eduardo Duhalde (2002-2003)
55. Néstor Kirchner (2003-2007)
56. Cristina Fernández de Kirchner (2007-…)

ResultsSad
Round one: Videla 7, J.F. Uriburu 4, Viola 2, Aramburu 1, Rosas 1, Menem 1
Round two: Aramburu 4, Rosas 4, Viola 2, Ongania 1, Roca 1
Round three: Roca 3, Viola 3, Ongania 2, Lavalle 2, Sarmiento 1, Mitre 1, Galtieri 1, Bignone 1
Round four: Ongania 5, Lavalle 2 (2 in previous rounds), Isabel Peron 2 (0 in previous rounds), Galtieri 1, Sarmiento 1, Urquiza 1
Round five: Isabel Peron 5, Ramirez 3, Galtieri 1, Sarmiento 1
Round six: Galtieri 4, Farrell 3, Sarmiento 1, Urquiza 1, Guido 1, Lanusse 1, Levingston 1
Round seven: Lanusse 5, Levingston 5, Urquiza 2, Sarmiento 1, Guido 1
Round eight: Molina Gomez 5, Guido 2 (2 in previous rounds), Rawson 2 (0 in previous rounds), Justo 2 (0 in previous rounds), Urquiza 1
Round nine: Rawson 5, Justo 5, Urquiza 1, Pedernera 1
Round ten: Urquiza 5, Lastiri 4, Pedernera 2, Lonardi 1
Round eleven: Bignone 4, Pedernera 3 (3 in previous rounds), Lonardi 3 (1 in previous rounds), Juarez Celman 1, Quintana 1
Round twelve: Juarez Celman 5, Lonardi 4, Quintana 1, Campora 1, Castillo 1
Round thirteen: Campora 4, Quintana 3, Castillo 1, C. Kirchner 1, Menem 1
Round fourteen: J.E. Uriburu 4, Balcarce 2 (0 in previous rounds+Caudillo's decision), Figueroa Alcorta 2 (0 in previous rounds), Castillo 1, Menem 1, Torcuato de Alvear 1, Lopez y Planes 1
Round fifteen: Figueroa Alcorta 4, Lopez y Planes 4, Castillo 2, Menem 1, Maza 1
Round sixteen: Maza 5, Castillo 2 (5 in previous rounds), Torcuato de Alvear 2 (1 in previous rounds), Rodriguez Saa 1
Round seventeen: Rodriguez Saa 3, de la Rua 3, Torcuato de Alvear 1, Menem 1, Pellegrini 1, Dorrego 1
Round eighteen: Luis Saenz Pena 3, Dorrego 3, Viamonte 2, Pellegrini 1, Derqui 1
Round nineteen: Viamonte 5, Pellegrini 4, Menem 3
Round twenty: C. Kirchner 5, Menem 4, Derqui 2, Torcuato de Alvear 1
Round twenty-one: Derqui 6, Torcuato de Alvear 3, Mitre 1, Avellaneda 1, Duhalde 1
Round twenty-two: de la Plaza 3, Mitre 2 (2 in previous rounds), Avellaneda 2 (1 in previous rounds), Duhalde 2 (1 in previous rounds), N. Kirchner 2 (0 in previous rounds), R. Saenz Pena 1
Round twenty-three: Avellaneda 6, N. Kirchner 3, R. Saenz Pena 2, J. Peron 1
Round twenty-four: Roque Saenz Pena 2 (3 in previous rounds), J. Peron 2 (1 in previous rounds), Rivadavia 2 (0 in previous rounds)
Round twenty-five: Rivadavia 4, J. Peron 2
Round twenty-six: Ortiz 4, J. Peron 2

In each round, you vote for the presidents or head of state you want to eliminate.
In case of a tie, the president who has received the biggest total of votes in previous rounds is eliminated. In case of a new tie, I, Caudillo of this Survivor, will decide.
Each round is open for 24 hours+

ROUND TWENTY-SEVEN IS OPEN !
Vote away !

Beware ! Now you've got only 1 vote !
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« Reply #219 on: February 05, 2010, 02:59:08 AM »

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« Reply #220 on: February 05, 2010, 03:10:31 AM »

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« Reply #221 on: February 05, 2010, 03:18:52 AM »

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« Reply #222 on: February 05, 2010, 03:21:57 AM »

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« Reply #223 on: February 05, 2010, 05:03:22 AM »

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« Reply #224 on: February 05, 2010, 05:30:44 AM »

See, Edu ?
When the survivor nears its end, there is always a bigger turnout.

I warn everybody that I keep the right to give more votes to the 6 regular voters.
I know, it's unfair, but every survivor manager can do what he wants in his survivor (in game rules, I mean).
Fortunately, all the "modern" debates are behind us now (Menem, Kirchners), so I think it will keep on being smooth.
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