Trump supporter John Husted, Ohio SoS possibly keeps Gary Johnson off ballot
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« on: August 11, 2016, 03:01:02 PM »
« edited: August 11, 2016, 03:19:47 PM by amdcpus »

5 days ago, well before the deadline to turn in signatures for presidential ballot access in Ohio, the Libertarians turned in 12000 signatures, 7000 more than the 5000 required. However, the name of the  candidate on the signatures is Charlie Earl. This is because they started petitioning before nominating Johnson. According to Section F of Ohio law, they are allowed to do a substitution if done 86 days or more before the election, to replace Earl with Johnson: http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/3513.31

However, John Husted, who has for years worked to keep third parties off the ballot decided to hold the signatures until today, before sending them to the BoE to certify them, which makes it impossible for the BoE to certify them in time for the deadline of switching in Johnson's name. He cannot switch his name in until the signatures are certified.

And of course, Husted is a Trump supporter.

Edit: Just got an email from Richard Winger, who is a God of ballot access.

"There is nothing in the Ohio law that says the substitution can't take place until the petitions have been checked.  I have just re-read the Ohio law, 3513.31(F).  I hope you read it.  The deadline for substitution is Monday, August 15, and the Libertarians are busy finishing the paperwork as we speak.  I don't see a problem.  Just google "Ohio statutues" and you can read the law for yourself."
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2016, 03:03:55 PM »

Not really sure this helps Trump.
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2016, 03:04:32 PM »

Not really sure this helps Trump.
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2016, 03:05:35 PM »

Not really sure this helps Trump.
In fact, I'm relatively sure it doesn't.
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2016, 03:05:53 PM »

Depending on the pollster, Johnson seems to take more support from Hillary. Not sure this was a wise decision.
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2016, 03:11:27 PM »

Apparently he'll likely be on the ballot as an independent and not as a libertarian.
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2016, 03:12:38 PM »

Apparently he'll likely be on the ballot as an independent and not as a libertarian.
A large number of voters who are undecided/hate them both don't realize that Johnson is a member of a radical party and think he's running as a centrist anyway, so it won't change much.
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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2016, 03:13:32 PM »

Will Earl be on the ballot?
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2016, 03:13:53 PM »

Apparently he'll likely be on the ballot as an independent and not as a libertarian.

No this is for the Independent petition. They already ruled against them and said he can't be on as a Libertarian, also due to John Husted.
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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2016, 03:14:51 PM »

Apparently he'll likely be on the ballot as an independent and not as a libertarian.

No this is for the Independent petition. They already ruled against them and said he can't be on as a Libertarian, also due to John Husted.

State your sources
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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2016, 03:15:51 PM »

I haven't heard this, but I'm sure they'll win on an appeal.
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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2016, 03:16:10 PM »

Corrupt asswipe does corrupt asswipe things.

Apparently he'll likely be on the ballot as an independent and not as a libertarian.
A large number of voters who are undecided/hate them both don't realize that Johnson is a member of a radical party and think he's running as a centrist anyway, so it won't change much.

Really?
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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2016, 03:17:22 PM »

RCP's average for the 4-way race is Clinton 41.8, Trump 39.6, Johnson 7.2, Stein 2.6 or Clinton +2.2.  In the 2-way, Clinton leads by 2.6 (45.0-42.4).  Assuming that almost all of Stein's support would go to Clinton, this seems like Johnson is taking more from Clinton than from Trump.
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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2016, 03:17:48 PM »

guess Kasich and Yost are voting for Hillary then.
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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2016, 03:20:15 PM »

Just got an email from Richard Winger, who is a God of ballot access.

"There is nothing in the Ohio law that says the substitution can't take place until the petitions have been checked.  I have just re-read the Ohio law, 3513.31(F).  I hope you read it.  The deadline for substitution is Monday, August 15, and the Libertarians are busy finishing the paperwork as we speak.  I don't see a problem.  Just google "Ohio statutues" and you can read the law for yourself."
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« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2016, 03:20:32 PM »

Corrupt asswipe does corrupt asswipe things.

Apparently he'll likely be on the ballot as an independent and not as a libertarian.
A large number of voters who are undecided/hate them both don't realize that Johnson is a member of a radical party and think he's running as a centrist anyway, so it won't change much.

Really?

I don't mean that in a negative context, I'm just noting that the Libertarian Party is definitely not a party that abides to the center-left/center-right window. They take bold, principled positions.
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« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2016, 03:40:34 PM »

Ohio sucks.
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