The Hofoid House of Absurd & Ignorant Posts VII

[JA]

Name it for Cora. Seriously.

If you think Coraxion needs to be banned then a good 75% of the forum could be banned.

75% of the forum has not come out in favor of blowing up school buses full of children last time I checked.

People who say they oppose the deaths of their political opponents are lying.

WTF??

[JA]

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=270127.0

Almost every post is talking about the loony speaker being sexually attractive.

Straight guys can think girls are hot, chill out.

The real absurdity and ignorance there is to actually think she's hot.

[JA]

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=270127.0

Almost every post is talking about the loony speaker being sexually attractive.

Straight guys can think girls are hot, chill out.

The real absurdity and ignorance there is to actually think she's hot.

I prefer not to have my unseemly thoughts on record, but let's get real; any problem with her attractiveness is purely age related (unless, of course, she's younger than I think she is).

I respectfully disagree. I've seen plenty of extremely attractive older women (although I'll admit, I have a strong preference for those closer to my age). The reason I don't find her attractive is her rather masculine features; I simply like only very feminine women. She may be objectively attractive, but subjectively, she's not.

[JA]

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=270127.0

Almost every post is talking about the loony speaker being sexually attractive.

Straight guys can think girls are hot, chill out.

The real absurdity and ignorance there is to actually think she's hot.

I prefer not to have my unseemly thoughts on record, but let's get real; any problem with her attractiveness is purely age related (unless, of course, she's younger than I think she is).

I respectfully disagree. I've seen plenty of extremely attractive older women (although I'll admit, I have a strong preference for those closer to my age). The reason I don't find her attractive is her rather masculine features; I simply like only very feminine women. She may be objectively attractive, but subjectively, she's not.

Ah, so you are calling people ignorant based on your subjective interpretation of a metric.

There's a lesson in this: don't take half of what I say on here seriously

[JA]

I think equal pay is an issue that needs to be confronted, however I've always felt that controlling wealth inequality is pointless. It penalizes those who have become successful. Single payer systems don't usually work well, look at the NHS in the UK. A toddler is now dead because of it, and there are probably thousands more that didn't make waves to the US. Do I think we should have public healthcare for those who are below the poverty line? Absolutely. Do I think we should force everyone onto a government program? No.

So not being a socialist is absurd and ignorant. Good to know.

Absolutely!

Seconded

[JA]

Kingpoleon's posts are bad in subtle, artful ways. Look in awe as he uses two separate bad arguments to make an unclear point.

Just a reminder that Roosevelt could easily have ordered the death of all Japanese-Americans, and over fifty percent of the country supported wiping out everyone of Japanese blood.

At least Reagan's reaction to such a threat wasn't: "Jail all the gays!!!"

Just because you don't understand what two entirely unrelated points have to do with the conclusion doesn't make my argument dumb - you might not just be clever enough to understand it.

[JA]

DSA support BDS and are just as vile as -- and more dangerous than -- the organizers of the rally. Which doesn't excuse the latter group at all, btw.

[JA]

Just in case anybody starts talking sh*t about me just remember that you can mock me as much as you'd like, this does not mean a thing. Firstly, none of you "get" me. I have an extraordinary mind not only as said by me, but also by far more intelligent people than me. I have a friend who's currently studying engineering physics who says I'm one of the few people that can keep up with him in a complicated conversation. Secondly, to all of your surprise, yes I do have friends, I met my best friend 17 years ago and we're like brothers since, he's aware that I'm a brainiac and sometimes calls me a walking encyclopedia, and I don't see why here I have to dumb down myself for the sake of attracting the affection of "internet people". I am who I am and you people know nothing about me, all you can do is make assumptions based on a few internet comments. I can't stop you doing it, but I can choose to either take it seriosly or just entertain myself. And to end with - “The thing about smart people is that they seem like crazy people to dumb people.” - Stephen Hawking. So yeah just remember my brilliance and keep that in mind.

(JacobinAmerican's post, to be exact)

No need to be triggered. It was nothing personal, chief.

[JA]

Just in case anybody starts talking sh*t about me just remember that you can mock me as much as you'd like, this does not mean a thing. Firstly, none of you "get" me. I have an extraordinary mind not only as said by me, but also by far more intelligent people than me. I have a friend who's currently studying engineering physics who says I'm one of the few people that can keep up with him in a complicated conversation. Secondly, to all of your surprise, yes I do have friends, I met my best friend 17 years ago and we're like brothers since, he's aware that I'm a brainiac and sometimes calls me a walking encyclopedia, and I don't see why here I have to dumb down myself for the sake of attracting the affection of "internet people". I am who I am and you people know nothing about me, all you can do is make assumptions based on a few internet comments. I can't stop you doing it, but I can choose to either take it seriosly or just entertain myself. And to end with - “The thing about smart people is that they seem like crazy people to dumb people.” - Stephen Hawking. So yeah just remember my brilliance and keep that in mind.

(JacobinAmerican's post, to be exact)

No need to be triggered. It was nothing personal, chief.

TechnocacyTimmy is a good friend of mine. I am not really a fan of how you treated him.

[JA]

Why should Hillary Clinton be expected to comfort those who didn't vote?! She can't remove their mistake, even if she said a few nice words it wouldn't have done anything. They could have stopped Donald Trump from becoming President and they chose not to. Hopefully they will learn the hard way the importance of voting and vote in future elections.

And perhaps next time Democrats will learn not to nominate a candidate whose disapproval ratings rival those of Donald F***ing Trump.

If this country can't overcome its deep-seated, fanatical misogyny, it doesn't deserve a better president than Trump. But the people who will be hurt the most are people overseas who will be wiped out in the coming nuclear holocaust.

[JA]

The "safe spaces" and "SJWs" that Trump and his supporters talk about are the result of anti-bullying campaigns.

This guy made three posts on three separate threads in the US General Discussion forum this morning whining about anti-bullying policies. Sounds like someone got in trouble at school for bullying. Tsk tsk

[JA]

If alcohol were to completely go away, 90% of society's problems would be instantly cured.  In an ideal world, alcohol should be illegal, but I think that we would have had to do that in the 1700s or 1800s and that the negative externalities of doing that today would outweigh the benefits.

[JA]

I never stand for the anthem for a variety of reasons one mainly being the countries views on Arabs and Muslims. And guess what, it's perfectly my right as an American to do that. It's not unamerican as the TRIGGERED right claims it is.

I do not see a problem with NFL players kneeling either. It's another false outrage the President and the right have.

Arab Muslims were responsible for 9/11.  And many Arab Muslims in America, at a minimum, have a degree of sympathy for Islamic Jihadists.  Given the hostility these nations have toward Israel, why should it be shocking that American citizens have the attitudes some of them have toward Arab Muslims?  Should it be considered unreasonable that American citizens may have doubts as to whether or not Arab Muslims have the same loyalty to America, right or wrong, that they have?

I'll agree that there's false outrage.  But why shouldn't I question the loyalty to America someone who refuses to stand for the Anthem out of loyalty to their country of origin and a grudge against American citizens who support, say, Trump's immigration ban?  Is America YOUR country?  Or is it just where you live?  

That's a real important question because we are NOT a nation bound by "blood and soil" as most nations of the world are.  If we are a nation where significant blocs of its CITIZENS have divided loyalties, let alone a primary loyalty to another nation, ethnic group, religious sect, etc, than what becomes of our experiment in self-government?  How can America function as a nation when one group or another are preoccupied with its ethnic and racial grievances (however justified) to the point where their loyalty to America is conditional?  What one has a right to do or not do is an entirely different question than the question of what attitudes on the part of American citizens are necessary in order for our continuing experiment in self-government and individual liberty to be successful.  When I was young, I thought this unimportant; even authoritarian, but as history has unfolded, I recognize that for America to work, its citizens have to be committed to its success, even over the perceived interest of their own groups of which they consider themselves members of.  

[JA]

Since you're so obsessed with "winning debates," here are ten responses.

1. I resort to insults because you're as dumb as a bag of rocks.

2. You f[inks]ing asked me "What specific facts that I stated do you deny?" to which I bolded what I disagreed with you on.

3. You cited some 9th grade biology bullsh[inks] about gene abnormalities which is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

4. Your usage of male pronouns in reference to Caitlyn Jenner is a transphobic canard.

5. Having a penis/vagina =/= gender. That's sex. Read a book or something.

6. Why the f[inks] does it matter to you what Jenner chooses to identify as?

7. Why the f[inks] do you think that YOU get to decide what Jenner and other trans people are allowed to identify as?

8. The whole "Why can't I identify as a tree????1?1" thing is not only beyond stupid, it completely belittles the struggles that trans people have to deal with, both internally and societally.
     a. If you can't the difference between a tree and a woman, you really are as dumb as I say you are.
     b. There are things which make Caitlyn Jenner a woman other than her word: her transitioning, her psychological identification as a woman,
     c. Once again, I'd like to repeat that you are incredibly stupid.

9. The article in the OP literally explain how what one feels inside one's head IS biology.

10. These are medical experts at the Endocrine Society who are stating this, officially, as a legitimate organization. I think it's safe to say that they better understand the issue and can actually provide facts as opposed to some random person posting their opinion on the internet.

1. I am not dumb.  My SAT score puts me in the 90th percentile.  My IQ is over 140.
2. I didn't notice the bolding.
3. It was relevant because "Communist Cracker" said there was more variation than XX and XY so I clarified those variations and how they still work out into the 2 sexes.
4. Ha! Ha!  You are triggered because I "misgendered" someone.  Most sincere apologies for that micro-aggression.  Please go to a safe space.
5. Sex and gender are synonyms.  Read a thesaurus or something.
6. It doesn't affect me, but I  can still disagree about it.
7. I don't get to decide what they identify as.  I don't have mind control powers.  But I can call them what I want and see them for their real gender....that they got at birth.
8. So basically what makes Caitlin Jenner a woman is that he says so , wears a dress, and is in "transition" aka hormones and surgery.
what makes him a man is: XY chromosomes, penis, testicles, prostate, seminal vesicles, Adam's apple, lacks any female organs, has a deep,many voice, is like 6'3'', won an Olympic medal as a MAN..........
My arguments are based on science while all you can do is say I'm dumb until you are blue in the face.  Generally, someone whose best argument is to call someone dumb is actually the dumb one, just sayin.
9/10. I agree, any feeling you have inside your head is technically biological, but with that logic, if you feel inside your head you are POTUS, are you actually in the real world?  Nope.  Just the same as with the trannies.  I don't doubt Jenner feels inside his head he is a woman, I just don't think that actually makes him one when all of the physical evidence points otherwise.  Why is it that all other mental feelings that are not reality are considered delusions, except gender identity?  It is because of politics.  The transgenders are the next big victim group for the left and any scientist that challenges their identities would be labeled a bigot, so they come up will a silly excuse which basically, "they think they are the other gender so they are."   That argument doesn't hold up any where else.  I am 17 and think I am 60, so am I?  no. Can I get drinks at a bar?  no. I think I am a tree so am I? no. My ancestry is white but I identify as black.  Can I begin a transition to black and listen to rap music and wear black shoepolish? no.  Now I am a black person? no. do I get affirmative action? no.  I am a man but I think I am a girl.  Can I just wear a dress and makeup and become a girl? no...... I mean absolutely yes! can I use the girls restroom? come right in! can I go into a girl's locker room and watch them change?  why yes!
See the problem.  Every other time a person identifies in their brain they are something they are not, it is either a joke, crazy, or the person is delusional.  Except with gender, because of 2 works: political correctness.  I honestly don't care if you think I am a bigot or if I offended you.  If you think of this objectively and in a logical and fact based manner, you will understand transgenderism is absolute lunacy and a denial or reality.  If someone has a delusion, you don't try to make that delusion reality, you try to fix their delusion.  Yes trans people need medical treatment, to fix their identity and make it in sync with reality.  Cutting your dick off won't solve problems.

[JA]

Kamala Harris has done more for the justice of million Californians, the most racially diverse state in the country, then Bernie Sanders has done for his sh**tty rural white state. Yet it's the old mediocre white guy that is being shoved down the base throat, when Kamala is a inspiration to many WOC who feel the pain of living in Trump America. Explain to me how the low accomplished senator gets a fair shot at the presidency and not the hard-working GA.

[JA]

Yes, how benevolent of you to just assume that any poster conveniently lives in the "most urban" part of a particular state. Also quite convenient!

Actually I just wanted you to admit this - you live in the whitest area of Georgia.

You're a part of "white flight," not me. You're the type of person I know that moves out of a neighborhood once it becomes over 40% Hispanic.

Why not just assume that I live in one of the most rural parts of a state instead? You know, surrounded by GOP types who would walk barefoot through their own feces if they didn't have a government telling them not to, with big fat starch-injected guts hanging down to their knees, tons of scrap metal piled up on their rotten front porches accumulated from all of their relatives who blew their brains out because their lives were just so pathetic because they never accomplished anything?
                                                
And LOL - my city is literally majority-Latino. You're really bad at this! I'm sure your goal was for me to admit I lived somewhere other than ATL.

[JA]

Age: 26
Gender: Male
Religion: High Church Anglican
Location: Mountain Brook, Alabama
Birthplace: Oyster Bay, New York
Occupation: Feudal lord
Political Orientation: To the Right of Genghis Khan and to the Left of God
Education: PhD in throwing Marxists out of helicopters
Languages: English, Spanish, Latin, Greek
Favorite President: Jefferson Davis
Favorite Politicians: Francisco Franco, Augusto Pinochet, Jorge Rafael Videla, Anastasio Somoza, Suharto, Tsar Nicholas II, Maximiliano Hernandez Martinez, Ferdinand Marcos, Ngo Dinh Diem, P. W. Botha, Hendrik Verwoerd, Roberto d'Aubuisson, Jair Bolsonaro, Ian Smith
Favorite Music: Christian Neofolk, classical, leftist tears
Favorite Books: Anything by Augustin Barruel, Julius Evola, Joseph de Maistre or Nesta Webster
Favorite Films: Nothing from degenerate atheist communist Hollywood
Favourite Video Games: Video games are Satanic and Marxist
Favorite TV Shows: TV is Bolshevik propaganda
Favorite Sports: Curbstomping homeless people
Favorite Color: Anything but Red
Race: White and NOT ashamed

[JA]

I have a political manifesto for my political party, the Christian Falangists, but am not sure where to put that. I will outline my political beliefs here for now.
Ideology
Social: Totalitarian Fundamentalism
Economic: Extreme Economic Freedom for the Rich Mixed With State Intervention to Destroy the Rights of Lower Class Dregs
Foreign Policy: Extreme Imperialist
Registration: Christian Falangist
Social Policy
Abortion: Death penalty for all sluts who murder babies for any reason, death penalty for any doctor who participates in baby murder, death penalty for anyone who supports baby murder as a right
Same-Sex Marriage: Death penalty for all homosexuals
Religious Liberty: ZERO religious freedom for any religion other than Christianity, death and destruction for all Satanists, Christianity as the law of the land, destroy all leftist organizations posing as "Christian churches"
Drugs: Death penalty for all drug dealers, harsh brutal imprisonment with torture for all drug users, death penalty for all pro-drug activists
Death Penalty: For all crimes where God commands it
Gun Control: Mandatory gun ownership for the upper and middle classes, total ban for poor people and socialists
Affirmative Action: Affirmative action to positively discriminate in favor of the presence of white, straight, Christian males in all institutions
Prostitution: Death penalty for all whores, pimps and porn sluts
Euthanasia: Mandatory gassing for all cripples, retards and hobos
Immigration: ZERO non-white immigration allowed, all non-White, non-Christian immigrants declared illegal, publicly whipped and never allowed to come back, millions of troops mobilized to guard all borders 24/7 and shoot all non-whites and non-Christians crossing borders
Transgender Issues: Public execution of all trannies, cross dressers, degenerates and freaks
Economic Issues
Minimum Wage: Absolutely removed and replaced with a maximum wage; punish all businesses that pay proles enough to have a "decent living" which they don't deserve
Welfare: Totally remove all welfare except for feudal lords, corporations and the wealthy, mandatory forced labor for all welfare bums with anyone formerly receiving welfare or food stamps being given zero rights on the job, gas all welfare queens with more than 2 bastard children
Social Security: Allowed only for the deserving and returned to the Church
Healthcare: Private or public healthcare allowed only for aristocrats, job creators, capitalists and other productive elements
Trade: Unlimited free trade with all countries that are not Marxist, Communist, Muslim or otherwise sinful
Deficit/Debt: Solved by abolishing all social spending on proles and peasants
Campaign Finance: Total control of all legal political formations by billionaires and corporations, execute anyone who accepts funds from Marxist sources
Unions: Absolutely smashed, anyone who wants to form one publicly disemboweled (excluding employer unions, which should have unlimited power)
Energy: Whatever form of energy does the most to harm "Mother Earth" and make hippies cry should be used
Job Creation: Jobs are created by the free market working together with godly feudal aristocrats; these sectors should be rewarded for creating jobs
Education: Public and private education removed from the degenerate masses and allowed only for productive and deserving social sectors, execute all Marxist teachers, destroy all traces of leftist indoctrination in educational institutions
Higher Education: Execute all Marxist professors, return to allowing only high IQ non proles to go to college
Taxes: 99% tax on the poor, gradually decreasing as income increases, massive tax cuts for the conservative middle class and zero taxes on the wealthy, corporations or aristocrats
Foreign
ISIS: Nuked by America, other countries can participate but America will take the lead, all Muslims considered members of ISIS and dealt with accordingly
Russia: Work with Russia to destroy Islam as long as it makes clear that it totally repudiates Communism and executes all Communists in its borders, severely punish Russia if it does not
China: Demand that China remove all remaining traces of Marxist ideology, be extremely tough with them if they show hesitation in doing this, if that is successful work with China to strengthen the power of international capitalism, gradually subvert China internally with Christian evangelization and go to war with them if they try to prevent the establishment of Christian theocracy when the time comes
Cuba: Invaded, all members of Communist Party given a helicopter ride, made into American state under incredibly harsh and brutal occupation as punishment for decades of Communism
Iran: Should be given a different kind of "nuclear deal"
Israel/Palestine: Total massive unconditional undying support for Israel with no hesitations, starvation sanctions on all Palestinians, Gaza converted into a REAL concentration camp, strongly encourage Israel to use Samson Option
Syria/Refugees: Bomb Syria into smithereens, all Muslim refugee boats bombed, Christian refugees are allowed as long as they are of the Kataeb variety of Christian rather than the George Habash "Christians" who will be given free helicopter rides
North Korea: Wiped off the planet

[JA]

David Duke is made out to be a raving lunatic racist by people on the left and right of the polical establishment.  Denouncing David Duke is how every conservative reassures people that he's compassionate and sympathetic to all races and religions.  And yet, if you listen to David Duke you'll hear a calm, rational and articulate man.  He has more intelligence in his pinky finger than Sean Hannity or Bill O'Reilly have in their entire bodies.  
David Duke does not espouse hate, violence, or white supremacy.  He stands for peace and traditional values.  He opposes torture.  (I happen to support enhanced interrogation, but that's beside the point.)

[JA]

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Welcome aunt tammy.

wtf does that even mean?

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Aunt%20Tammy

He's calling her an Aunt Tammy for being a black woman who likes Republicans.

Bagel23's bigotry strikes again.

[JA]

“This glib proposal to outlaw the Communist Party would be quickly recognized everywhere as an abject surrender by the great United States to the methods of totalitarianism." - Thomas Dewey

When we talk about free speech, I want everyone to understand this: free speech for all mankind, respect freely given where it is not deserved, this is a truly radical idea.

Implying that communism is morally eauivalent to neo-nazism.

Totalitarian communism is a genocidal philosophy. The original post was great - the government should have no role in the United States in outlawing political philosophies, no matter how repugnant.

Jesus f**k

We can debate all day whether "real" communism would have involved the deaths that Stalin, et al incurred, or whether or not they were necessary, but the fact remains that, where those flying the flag of communism took power, the result was a bloodbath. And, even if you have a conservative definition of genocide, the Holodomor seems as good an example as any, even if you consider it isolated. Genocide is the interaction between two variables--death and its ethnic or racial dimensions; both of those by themselves did occur in the USSR (we need merely contemplate the Man of Steel's actions as Commissar for Nationalities concerning the latter), and it is certainly not hard to imagine that they could have happened in conjunction multiple times.

Simultaneously, we can't ignore the instances in which Communism arose without establishing an authority that pursued extraordinarily violence. Perhaps the best example is former Yugoslavia. But context is perhaps most critical in understanding any historical event; just as religion itself doesn't cause violence but serves as a justification, the same can be said of ideologies that don't explicitly promote violence against other groups. In every situation in which Communism arose, the context must be understood; this includes historical grudges, hatred, rivalry, explicit and implicit support for Communism's opposition by internal and external forces, desire for resources, and so on. Nothing in Communism promotes violence against any other group, save for the call for the overthrow of the bourgeois (which is a significantly small minority within a society). Sometimes, that may take the form of systematic persecution of religious or ethnic minorities when said minorities had once possessed disproportionate wealth/power/privileges in that society. And even that doesn't make the violence correct or excusable, especially not when it morphs into genocidal tendencies.

If mentions of Communist countries' undisputable violence and possible genocides is occurring, it's also fair to mention the countless examples of extraordinary violence perpetrated by capitalist forces as well. What the US did to North Korea resulted in near decimation of the country and the death of nearly 1/3rd of its population; the total bombs dropped during the Vietnam War across Southeast Asia far surpassed that of WWII (and that conflict was instigated by French colonialism and American imperialism); the support provided to the White Russian Army aided it in mass violence (including British use of chemical weapons on Russian civilians); the forced displacement, terrorism, segregation, and warfare against Palestinians by Zionist settlers supported by Great Britain and the Western-dominated League of Nations and UN; and the unimaginable forced relocation, enslavement, genocide, and displacement of tens of millions of people in the Americas, Africa, Asia, and Oceania, by Western colonial powers.

The point is, power and inequality almost always birth violence and persecutions. That occurs whether the system is Communist, Capitalist, or whatever; it occurs whether people are Christian, Muslim, Atheist, or other.

[JA]

“This glib proposal to outlaw the Communist Party would be quickly recognized everywhere as an abject surrender by the great United States to the methods of totalitarianism." - Thomas Dewey

When we talk about free speech, I want everyone to understand this: free speech for all mankind, respect freely given where it is not deserved, this is a truly radical idea.

Implying that communism is morally eauivalent to neo-nazism.

Totalitarian communism is a genocidal philosophy. The original post was great - the government should have no role in the United States in outlawing political philosophies, no matter how repugnant.

Jesus f**k

We can debate all day whether "real" communism would have involved the deaths that Stalin, et al incurred, or whether or not they were necessary, but the fact remains that, where those flying the flag of communism took power, the result was a bloodbath. And, even if you have a conservative definition of genocide, the Holodomor seems as good an example as any, even if you consider it isolated. Genocide is the interaction between two variables--death and its ethnic or racial dimensions; both of those by themselves did occur in the USSR (we need merely contemplate the Man of Steel's actions as Commissar for Nationalities concerning the latter), and it is certainly not hard to imagine that they could have happened in conjunction multiple times.

Simultaneously, we can't ignore the instances in which Communism arose without establishing an authority that pursued extraordinarily violence. Perhaps the best example is former Yugoslavia. But context is perhaps most critical in understanding any historical event; just as religion itself doesn't cause violence but serves as a justification, the same can be said of ideologies that don't explicitly promote violence against other groups. In every situation in which Communism arose, the context must be understood; this includes historical grudges, hatred, rivalry, explicit and implicit support for Communism's opposition by internal and external forces, desire for resources, and so on. Nothing in Communism promotes violence against any other group, save for the call for the overthrow of the bourgeois (which is a significantly small minority within a society). Sometimes, that may take the form of systematic persecution of religious or ethnic minorities when said minorities had once possessed disproportionate wealth/power/privileges in that society. And even that doesn't make the violence correct or excusable, especially not when it morphs into genocidal tendencies.

If mentions of Communist countries' undisputable violence and possible genocides is occurring, it's also fair to mention the countless examples of extraordinary violence perpetrated by capitalist forces as well. What the US did to North Korea resulted in near decimation of the country and the death of nearly 1/3rd of its population; the total bombs dropped during the Vietnam War across Southeast Asia far surpassed that of WWII (and that conflict was instigated by French colonialism and American imperialism); the support provided to the White Russian Army aided it in mass violence (including British use of chemical weapons on Russian civilians); the forced displacement, terrorism, segregation, and warfare against Palestinians by Zionist settlers supported by Great Britain and the Western-dominated League of Nations and UN; and the unimaginable forced relocation, enslavement, genocide, and displacement of tens of millions of people in the Americas, Africa, Asia, and Oceania, by Western colonial powers.

The point is, power and inequality almost always birth violence and persecutions. That occurs whether the system is Communist, Capitalist, or whatever; it occurs whether people are Christian, Muslim, Atheist, or other.

I hear you loud and clear; my primary point involved the operative word “totalitarian”. I’m willing to cede that, aside from necessarily revolutionary violence, that revolutionary communism doesn’t “have” to be as violent as it was. That said, it *did* happen. An interesting point that Arendt makes—and we can debate its verifiabikity, but I think it brings up something important—is that what she called totalitarian societies treated their citizens as a conquered country, or, rather, much how they might treat a foreign country.

As for your other points, I’ve always found the “he did this...” style of debate to kack real comparison (the other instance that this comes up is in discussing right versus left terrorism). If we are discussing communism while keeping basic standards of decency we’ve come to accept, we should most certainly condemn its worst iterations.

Oh, I'm certainly not disagreeing with anything you state here. Totalitarian societies, including Communist ones, are generally hell. The way their citizens are treated is appalling; at least democratic societies have proven to provide a better standard of living (at least in terms of human rights and civil rights) than practically any totalitarian country.

A friend of mine is Bosniak, born and lives in Sarajevo, and is a staunch defender of Tito's Yugoslavia. She always tells me how, despite the newfound freedoms they possess, their country is now run by drug cartels, corrupt politicians, and mafia-like crime syndicates, and the majority of industries are concentrated in a few wealthy, well-connected hands. It's like that throughout most of Eastern Europe, aside from the few relative success stories (Czech, Slovenia, Poland, Estonia). Although they have considerably more freedom and democracy, that has been accompanied by massive unemployment, chronic poverty, enormous emigration, and significant insecurity for the majority of people. All of those things were largely foreign to countries such as hers during Communism, so a lot or even a majority of people miss Yugoslavia and the benevolent dictatorship of Tito where people like her one grandfather owned a business (who had to unionize and incorporate other workers since hiring employees was banned) and the others owned (and worked) their small farms and sold produce. Now, it's a daily struggle and most people she grew up with have left for work opportunities abroad.

Many totalitarian states have provided great security for their citizens, which helped to ensure its stability and success. Most others, however, were largely disasters and established solely to enrich a few while oppressing and exploiting the many. So, not even all totalitarian states are created equal.

[JA]

What in the literal f**k? Can we please get rid of him already?

No way! He's so damn weird and creepy that I actually find him amusing.

[JA]

I guarantee that it is worse for me than either of them.  When your biggest concern is abortion, elections are really life-or-death events and at least another, maybe 2 more, Holocausts will happen due to this setback.

Have you become full-on liberal?

Using the word "Holocaust" when describing anything but the Holocaust is automatically absurd. The idea that Roy Moore is the difference between ending abortion in America and not might be even more absurd, though.

That was my initial thought when i read this ... how in the hell would roy moore end abortion.

Maybe he'll use his, as he calls it for the kids, "magic wand."

[JA]

Democrats better shut down this #metoo movement before it takes out all of our male senators and congressmen. We must not let a small, irellevant, and obnoxious group of people destroy the oldest political party in the world that has been fighting aganst corporate interest and for the working class since 1828.

Little s**t

He is right that the Democrats have always been on the right side of history since 1828, though.