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« Reply #125 on: August 22, 2012, 08:25:13 PM »

1980

President James Carter (D-GA)/Senator Frank Church (D-ID)-277 EV, 42.2% of the popular vote.
Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Congressman Phil Crane (R-IL)-261 EV, 42.1% of the popular vote.
Congressman John Anderson (I-IL)/Senator Lowell Weicker (I-CT)-15.7% of the popular vote.
Other (Libertarian, American, Communist)-1.5% of the popular vote.

President Carter was a drowning man at the start of 1980. However, his fortunes grew as the Republican Party divided itself amongst its moderates and conservatives. After a bitter primary battle, Reagan’s main rival, George Bush, endorsed independent candidate John Anderson. In the meantime, Carter was able to rescue the American hostages in Iran in a daring rescue mission, and the economy slowly began to improve. Carter won an extremely close reelection, with less than 10,000 votes deciding Pennsylvania, and thus, the election.
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« Reply #126 on: August 23, 2012, 02:34:08 PM »

Why would Bush pick Harold Stassen in 1984? The man has not held office since 1943!
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« Reply #127 on: August 24, 2012, 06:37:16 PM »

1992

Senator Robert Dole (R-KS)/Governor Carroll Campbell (R-SC)-291 EV, 54.5% of the popular vote.
President Michael Dukakis (D-MA)/Vice President Joseph Biden (D-DE)-247 EV, 45.2% of the popular vote.
Other (Libertarian, Taxpayers, Green)-0.3% of the popular vote.
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« Reply #128 on: October 05, 2012, 06:55:26 PM »

Lets keep this going Smiley
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« Reply #129 on: October 05, 2012, 09:59:29 PM »
« Edited: October 05, 2012, 10:01:46 PM by ChairmanSanchez »

I honestly am going off of my very limited knowledge of the eras politics. I will switch it Wink
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« Reply #130 on: October 07, 2012, 01:09:35 PM »

I have a much better, and very new idea for a collaborative list Wink This one has never been done before. I'll delete my last post and get started.
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« Reply #131 on: October 07, 2012, 02:17:39 PM »
« Edited: October 07, 2012, 02:25:12 PM by ChairmanSanchez »

In 1968, the two party system, and indeed, the electoral system of the United States as a whole would be changed forever. The third party campaign of George Wallace swept through the southern states, and took votes away from both candidates in many northern states. The election was the first since 1824 to result in a deadlocked electoral college. In the House of Representatives, several Southern Democrat's swung to Wallace, and Nixon was eventually elected. In his inaugural speech, Nixon promised that elections would "never again" be decided in "such a confusing manner." In 1970, Congress, and 35 states passed the 26th Amendment.

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1972

President Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Vice President Spiro Agnew (R-MD)-229 EV, 41.0% of the popular vote.
Former Vice President Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Senator Henry Jackson (D-WA)-260 EV, 40.9% of the popular vote.
Governor George Wallace (AIP-AL)/Congressman John Schmitz (AIP-CA)-36 EV, 11.4% of the popular vote.
Senator George McGovern (PF-SD)/Mr. Benjamin Spock (PF-CA)-13 EV, 5.5% of the popular vote.
Mrs. Linda Jenness (SWP-GA)/Mr. Andrew Pulley (SWP-IL)-0.9% of the popular vote.
Mr. John Hospers (L-CA)/Mrs. Toni Nathan (L-OR)-0.2% of the popular vote.
Other (Communist, Prohibition, Conservative)-0.1% of the popular vote.

The chaotic 1972 Democratic Convention saw the “Stop McGovern” movement unite around former Vice President and Senator Hubert Humphrey after the first ballot. Upon losing the nomination on the second ballot, McGovern supporters stormed out of the hall, and those who remained heckled Humphrey during his acceptance speech. McGovern later was nominated by the Peace and Freedom Party, and promised to expand the party from California to the other 49 states, which he did successfully.

Nixon fended off minor challenges and won the Republican nomination handily. George Wallace, a candidate who reluctantly released his delegates to Humphrey to stop McGovern, also jumped into the fray as the nominee of the American Independence Party.

As polling showed, President Nixon and former Vice President Humphrey would go into the runoff election, scheduled for December 5th. Governor Wallace reluctantly endorsed Nixon, while McGovern endorsed Humphrey. Supporters of Linda Jenness were urged to boycott the election, as a protest against what they saw as "incomplete electoral reform." On election day, Nixon and Humphrey supporters went to the polls, with most polls showing Nixon in the lead.


President Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Vice President Spiro Agnew (R-MD)-277 EV, 50.9% of the popular vote.
Former Vice President Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Senator Henry Jackson (D-WA)-261 EV, 49.1% of the popular vote.

The Nixon campaign used McGovern’s support for Humphrey against him, as well as taking advantage of Wallace's support in the south. The Nixon campaign won the state of Missouri, and thus the election, by tagging Humphrey as McGovern, despite the Humphrey campaign having hawkish Senator Jackson on the ticket.

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« Reply #132 on: October 12, 2012, 03:43:10 PM »

1980

Senator Edward Kennedy (D-MA)/Vice President James Carter (D-GA)-243 EV, 34.4% of the popular vote.
Former Governor Ronald Reagan (C-CA)/Congressman Jack Kemp (C-NY)-159 EV, 33.5% of the popular vote.
Senator Robert Dole (R-KS)/Former CIA Director George Bush (R-TX)-133 EV, 25.6% of the popular vote.
Mr. Ed Clark (L-CA)/State Legislator Richard Randolph (L-AK)-3 EV, 3.5% of the popular vote.
Mr. Abbie Hoffman (PF-PA)/Mr. Jerry Rubin (PF-CA)-1.5% of the popular vote.
Mayor Ed Koch (I-NY)/Former Congresswoman Louise Hicks (I-MA)-1.2% of the popular vote.
Former Congressman John Scmitz (P-CA)/Former Congressman John Rarick (P-LA)-0.2% of the popular vote.
Other (Socialist Workers, Prohibition, Communist)-0.1% of the popular vote.

The Jackson Presidency was one of the most controversial and divisive times since the final days of the Nixon administration. In late 1977, a worldwide economic crash led to a recession, followed by severe energy shortages in 1978, and a violent revolution in Iran that almost lead to US forces intervening in 1979. By early 1980, Jacksons reelection chances were failing, as was his health. Not surprisingly, he declined to seek reelection.

The 1980 Democratic Primaries were an intense battle between Vice President Carter and Senator Ted Kennedy. At the DNC, Kennedy won narrowly on the first ballot. To prevent the party from splitting, he asked Carter to stay on as Vice President, which Carter accepted. Despite the Democratic Party nearly fracturing, many centrist Democrats were unsatisfied. New York City Mayor Ed Koch, a moderate Democrat, announced an Independent bid, and asked former Massachusetts Congresswoman Louise Day Hicks as his running mate.

The Conservative Party nominated Ronald Reagan overwhelmingly, along with his preferred running mate, Congressman Jack Kemp. The Conservatives hoped to win the Presidency for the first time, which they lost narrowly in 1976. The Conservatives, like the Democrats, had some fracturing however. Reagan’s only opponent for the Conservative nomination, John Schmitz, formed the Patriot Party, and asked Louisiana Congressman John Rarick to be be his running mate.

The Republican primaries saw Senator Bob Dole easily beat several minor opponents, namely Congressman John Anderson and Senator Lowell Wicker, both of whom later endorsed the Dole/Bush ticket.

The Libertarian Party nominated Ed Clark and Dick Randolph, and had the financial backing of David Koch, which allowed them to win the state of Alaska and perform in the double digits in many western states.

The Peace and Freedom Party had planned on nominating Edward Kennedy, but his victory at the DNC denied them the opportunity. The party nominated infamous hippy activists Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin at their convention.

The general election was a three way battle between Democrats, Conservatives, and Republicans for the first round. In the end, the Conservatives were able to hold the South, and used a strategy of targeting key Republican states in the west that kept them using resources in states with lesser amounts of electoral votes.

The first round was a repeat of 1976-Conservatives and Democrats came out on top. The following month would produce one of the nastiest campaigns for the White House in history. Reagan was able to tie Senator Kennedy to President Jackson. Kennedy also failed to appeal to most Republicans, who saw him as farther left than Reagan was right. While Ed Koch and Abbie Hoffman reluctantly endorsed Kennedy, the Libertarian and Patriot Parties actively supported Reagan. The Republican Party refused to endorse in the second round, but most of its supporters flocked to Reagan. 1980 would be the closest election since 1960…


Former Governor Ronald Reagan (C-CA)/Congressman Jack Kemp (C-NY)-273 EV, 51.1% of the popular vote.
Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA)/Vice President James Carter (D-GA)-265 EV, 49.9% of the popular vote.
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« Reply #133 on: October 21, 2012, 05:45:54 PM »
« Edited: October 21, 2012, 06:43:34 PM by ChairmanSanchez »

Interesting Wink Look forward to seeing the map, but in the future, can you do it all at once, instead of dragging it along? Smiley
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« Reply #134 on: October 22, 2012, 02:25:52 PM »

Gotcha. I don't mean to be overly critical, but Henry Kissinger is foreign born, and thus uneligible for the Vice Presidency, and I have a hard time seeing the Conservatives nominating John Anderson. Just my two cents Smiley
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« Reply #135 on: October 22, 2012, 04:01:07 PM »

You would need President Bernie Sanders to do that Wink The last couple of administrations would never change the laws that radically.
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« Reply #136 on: October 23, 2012, 03:07:37 PM »

Ok, the last two posts do not match up at all. First of all, Solopop did 1988, and he did it in error. The run off system was not mentioned, and he used candidates who did not match the parties. Then Sirnick did 1988 again, even though it should be 1992, and again, ignored the last couple of posts in which a runoff was used. I think a redo is in order.
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« Reply #137 on: October 23, 2012, 05:27:58 PM »

1988

Congresswoman Geraldine Ferraro (MW-NY)/Senator Robert Dole (MW-KS)-247 EV, 32.1% of the popular vote.
Vice President Jack Kemp (C-NY)/Congressman Newt Gingrich (C-GA)-193 EV, 30.8% of the popular vote.
Senator Edward Kennedy (SD-MA)/Mr. Jesse Jackson (SD-IL)-95 EV, 28.5% of the popular vote.
Congressman Ron Paul (L-TX)/Congressman Dick Randolph (L-AK)-3 EV, 7.9% of the popular vote.
Other (Socialist Workers, Ecology, Prohibition)-0.7% of the popular vote.

The late 1980’s saw the greatest political upheaval and realignment in decades. Although a popular figure in US politics, President Reagan could not save the Conservative Party from public disapproval. In 1986, despite countless tax cuts and Wall Street deregulation, the economy fell into recession taking along with it 17 million jobs and a high flying US dollar. President Reagan tried to save it but ultimately failed with his '1987 Reagan/Kemp plan which drastically cut spending and taxes. Republicans and the Democrats, both seen as centrist parties compared to Peace and Freedom and the Conservatives, merged to form the “Modern Whig Party”, in November of 1987.

The first Modern Whig Party primaries saw Congresswoman Geraldine Ferraro beat out several well known rivals, such as former Vice President Jimmy Carter, Senator Robert Dole, General Al Haig, and Governor Bob Graham. To unite the young party, Ferraro picked Senator Dole as her running mate, and they campaigned on a ticket of tax decreases for the poor, tax increases for the wealthy and greater intervention in foreign affairs.

Conservatives nominated Vice President Kemp, who faced a strong challenge from Reverend Pat Robertson. Kemp asked Georgia Congressman Newt Gingrich to be his running mate. The Kemp/Gingrich ticket would face an uphill battle, with the Democrats and Republicans no longer splitting votes.

The Peace and Freedom Party and the leftwing of the Democratic Party formed the Social Democratic Party. The Social Democrats nominated Ted Kennedy for President, and Jesse Jackson for Vice President. The ticket would work hard to gain support of poor, urban, or minority voters to build a strong coalition as the main leftwing party in the United States.

The Libertarian Party once again returned to the spotlight when they nominated Congressman Ron Paul, a disaffected Conservative from Texas for President, and longtime Libertarian Congressman Dick Randolph of Alaska as their Presidential ticket.

The election was dirty and vitriolic. Ferraro came under attack for her husband’s questionable business associations. Controversial statements by Jesse Jackson dogged the Social Democratic ticket, while Newt Gingrich’s personal history, particularly his alleged dodging of the Vietnam draft brought negative attention.

The first round saw the Whigs and Conservatives advance towards the second round.  The second round saw the Social Democrats endorse Ferraro, who vigorously campaigned across the country. Conservatives grew stronger in the polls in the west, where the Libertarian Party performed well. However, the Whigs were able to co-opt moderate conservatives and Social Democrats into their fold, and in the second round, Geraldine Ferraro became the first female President of the United States.


Congresswoman Geraldine Ferraro (MW-NY)/Senator Robert Dole (MW-KS)-327 EV, 55.5% of the popular vote.
Vice President Jack Kemp (C-NY)/Congressman Newt Gingrich (C-GA)-193 EV, 44.5% of the popular vote.
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« Reply #138 on: October 23, 2012, 05:29:05 PM »

Get over it love! Maybe laws change!?
We have rules here. Its a fun game, and your post was good. I used a lot of it. I simply reformed it to make it fit in. If your not going to follow the set timeline, don't participate.
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« Reply #139 on: October 25, 2012, 01:08:19 PM »
« Edited: October 25, 2012, 02:41:12 PM by ChairmanSanchez »

I have an interesting proposal. How about we go all the way back to 1840 and do every election since? That would be a good list to do next once we finish this one.
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« Reply #140 on: October 25, 2012, 07:47:08 PM »

1872

President Horatio Seymour (D-NY)/Vice President Francis Blair (D-MO)-198 EV, 54.3% of the popular vote.
Senator Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME)/Governor Rutherford Hayes (R-OH)-154 EV, 44.9% of the popular vote.
Others (Prohibiton, Greenback, Farmers)-0.8% of the popular vote.
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« Reply #141 on: October 25, 2012, 10:41:55 PM »

Why did you end the previous timeline?
Some of us thought that it was too radically differant and that the political realignments were not realistic. Alternate history still has to be connected from its POD.
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« Reply #142 on: October 25, 2012, 11:10:33 PM »

Why did you end the previous timeline?
Some of us thought that it was too radically differant and that the political realignments were not realistic. Alternate history still has to be connected to its POD.

So the thought of some people affects the timeline of all? That's hardly fair.
This thread had been dead for a long time, and me and Cathcon revived it. The list got so confusing that we thought we would re-revive it with a new list. You are free to contribute or not contribute to the new list, of course. It has a lot more room for more parties, and realignment early on than the last one. What is hardly fair is a massive change from the established but still changeable plot in one post.
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« Reply #143 on: October 26, 2012, 12:11:04 AM »

I would but I don't know the politics of that time.
I don't either. I wiki things if I don't know the politics of the time. Oddly enough, this thread has helped me learn a good deal Wink.
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« Reply #144 on: October 26, 2012, 06:01:15 PM »

1880

President John Hartranft (R-PA)/Vice President Arthur Boreman (R-WV)-231 EV, 50.7% of the popular vote.
Senator Thomas Bayard (D-DE)/Governor Samuel Tilden (D-NY)-138 EV, 43.7% of the popular vote.
Congressman James Weaver (F-IA)/Former Governor William Taylor (F-WI)-5.6% of the popular vote.

President Hartfrant’s first term was controversial and in some cases, violent. While Hartfrant pushed for reforms in areas of civil rights and labor, he used Federal troops to break up a railroad strike in 1877, as well against the Ku Klux Klan, bringing their reign of terror in the south to a violent end. Promising civil service reform and an end to reconstruction, the Democrats nominated Thomas Bayard and Samuel Tilden at their convention. The Farmers Party was founded, replacing the Greenbacks, and nominated James Weaver, who ran on a platform of more government regulation of banks, and federal crop insurance for farmers. Though the race was competitive President Hartanft was popular, and won reelection by a wide margin.

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« Reply #145 on: October 29, 2012, 08:49:21 PM »

1888

President Thomas Hendricks (D-IN)/Governor Grover Cleveland (D-NY)-260 EV, 55.6% of the popular vote.
Governor Russell Alger (R-MI)/Senator Chester Arthur (R-NY)-141 EV, 42.3% of the popular vote.
Other (Farmers, Prohibition, Socialist)-2.1% of the popular vote.

President Tilden’s brief time in office would be remembered for his fight against political corruption. After a hard fought battle, the Civil Service Commission was created to root out political patronage. Unfortunately, President Tilden did not live long after the creation of the Civil Service Commission. He died of a heart attack in the Summer of 1886. President Hendricks was easily nominated at the Democratic National Convention in 1888, and asked Governor Grover Cleveland of New York to be his running mate. Hendricks was in ill health for most of the campaign, and many questioned his physical ability to take on the Presidency. Despite these fears, he easily dispatched Russell Alger and Chester Arthur by a wide margin, in part due to the strong economy. 
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« Reply #146 on: October 29, 2012, 08:52:10 PM »

18. Horatio Seymour (D-NY), 1869-1877.
19. John Hartranft (R-PA), 1877-1882.
20. Arthur Boreman (R-WV), 1882-1885.

21. Samuel Tilden (D-NY), 1885-1886.
22. Thomas Hendricks (D-IN), 1886-??
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« Reply #147 on: November 01, 2012, 07:58:39 PM »

Bump?
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« Reply #148 on: November 03, 2012, 04:34:51 PM »

1900

President William McKinley (R-OH)/Vice President Levi Morton (R-NY)-254 EV, 53.6% of the popular vote.
Former Congressman William Jennings Bryan (D-NE)/Mr. Julian Carr (D-NC)-193 EV, 45.5% of the popular vote.
Other (Prohibition, Populist, Socialist)-0.9% of the popular vote.

The McKinley Presidency was popular after a quick victory over the Spanish in the Spanish-American War, which brought Cuba, the Philippines, and Puerto Rico into the Union as territories (all of them were later granted independence), as well as the signing of the Gold Standard Act, which was supported by many of the former National Democrats. President McKinley was easily re-nominated for the Presidency, and faced William Jennings Bryan, a former Nebraska Congressman who campaigned on bimetallism and prohibition. McKinley defeated Bryan by a good margin.
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« Reply #149 on: November 04, 2012, 12:36:25 AM »

1912

Vice President Philander Knox (R-PA)/Senator William Smith (R-MI)-253 EV, 34.9% of the popular vote.
Speaker of the House Champ Clark (D-MO)/Senator Oscar Underwood (D-AL)-165 EV, 33.8% of the popular vote.
Governor Hiram Johnson (SL-CA)/ Congressman Victor Berger (SL-WI)-113 EV, 24.8% of the popular vote.
Mr. Edward Chafin (PH-WI)/Mr. Aaron S. Watkins (PH-KY)-3.1% of the popular vote.
Other (Union, Socialist Workers, American)-0.3% of the popular vote.

Nelson Aldrich enjoyed a period of calm and stability while President. Unfortunately for him, his major banking reform program continued to meet opposition in Congress. Conservatives opposed the proposed Federal Reserve from the right for being a central bank. On the left, the Progressives and Liberal Socialists opposed the Federal Reserve for granting too much control of its governing body to private banks.

The Liberal Socialists and the Progressive Party found common ground on many issues, and in 1911, merged into the Socialist Labor Party. They nominated Governor Hiram Johnson of California for President, and Congressman Victor Berger for Vice President.

Southern conservatives, still fuming over being relegated to support Mark Hanna in 1904 and the “St. Louis Massacre”, a bombing which they supporters of Eugene Debs were blamed for, became a major force at the Democratic Convention. House Speaker Champ Clark was nominated after a chaotic series of ballots, and Senator Underwood of Alabama was nominated for the Vice Presidency.

The Republican Party had tried to re-nominate President Aldrich, but he remained committed to his one term principle, and would not run again. Vice President Knox was easily nominated and asked Michigan Senator William Smith to be his running mate.

Vice President Knox campaigned heavily in the industrialized Midwest, as well as the Northeast in an attempt to hold the traditional Republican states from falling to the Socialists. He succeeded in this mission. Likewise, Johnson succeeded in his mission of uniting much of the agrarian west under the Socialist Labor Party. The Democrats were mainly confined to the South, but were able to achieve a strong performance in the Midwest. None of the candidates were able to win an outright majority, and the election went to the House of Representatives. The Democratic majority in the House made a deal with the Republicans, and Champ Clark was elected President, with Senator William Smith being elected Vice President overwhelmingly in the Senate. The congressional election of the President forced the Socialist Labor Party to focus more on winning more seats in Congress, as well as bringing up a new issue in American politics-electoral reform.
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