Opinion of Fuzzy Bear

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I'm praying for him.

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Anyway.

Sanctimonious as hell. Not a fan.

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Well I suppose hating immigrants is now "mainstream" now

Virtually every trend in public opinion shows that positive sentiment toward immigrants is at or near an all-time high.

yet we have a racist president

...for whom about 26% of US adults voted for just over two and a half years ago. Also, look at 1994 vs. 2019 in the chart Averroes posted, not just in terms of the 180 in public opinion but the difference between "63+31" and "62+28."

In 1994, according to that chart, 96% of poll/survey respondents were willing to give an answer to what appears to be a binary choice between a positive view of immigrants to the US and a negative view.  In 2019, it was 90% of respondents. That means that about 10% of Americans in 2019, extrapolating from that poll/survey data, have a less definitive answer to whether immigrants to the US are a positive or negative.

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Don't agree with him on a variety of issues, but gentle and informed guy. Freedom fighter.

Your compulsive moderate heroism is giving us cancer.

Why? You can respect a person but still disagree with him (or her) on political issues as long as this person is somewhat within the democratic mainstream.

Well I suppose hating immigrants is now "mainstream" now

President Johnson is living in the 90s bubble.

FWIW, Bill Clinton’s policies on immigration in the 90s were arguably closer to Trump’s than what would be permissible to many/most Democratic Party activists today.

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What is not negotiable is the idea that the US is sovereign over who gets to come into our country. 

And who is claiming otherwise?

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Why do we need ICE? Or the DHS, for that matter? (No, "9/11" is not an acceptable answer.) Seems like a recipe for massive centralized bureaucratic waste, abuse, even fraud. It wasn't (and isn't) exactly an uncontroversial government department.

Did the enforcement of US immigration laws not exist before the creation of ICE?

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Why do we need ICE? Or the DHS, for that matter? (No, "9/11" is not an acceptable answer.) Seems like a recipe for massive centralized bureaucratic waste, abuse, even fraud. It wasn't (and isn't) exactly an uncontroversial government department.

Did the enforcement of US immigration laws not exist before the creation of ICE?

It was INS before ICE. 

People who object to ICE are, in fact, objecting to the enforcement of our immigration laws.  That's my belief, as well.  The difference between ICE and INS and CONTROL and KAOS is nothing more than Alphabet Soup.  What's behind ICE is the mandate to enforce our present immigration laws.  There are many here that simply don't want that to happen.

Uh huh. k

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Also, if ICE exists to enforce our immigration laws, why isn’t it under the Department of Justice, like the FBI or DEA? What’s it doing in this massive post-9/11 “Department of Homeland Security?”

Oh right, who could forget the fact that the 9/11 hijackers all snuck through the southern border into the US as illegal immigrants...at least, that’s obviously what happened.

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Also, if ICE exists to enforce our immigration laws, why isn’t it under the Department of Justice, like the FBI or DEA? What’s it doing in this massive post-9/11 “Department of Homeland Security?”

Oh right, who could forget the fact that the 9/11 hijackers all snuck through the southern border into the US as illegal immigrants...at least, that’s obviously what happened.

A fantastic case for curtailing legal immigration too.

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