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opebo
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« Reply #75 on: November 09, 2004, 05:44:38 AM »

How can you possibly regard life expectency as a sign of advancement.  A portion of it is genetic and European contries tend to be genetically homogenous.

Yes, America has many races, and the non-white ones tend not to have any medical care.

Actually, that is not rally the case. 

You are comparing largely mono-ethnic societies with multi-ethnic ones.  Then you are suggesting that the mono-ethnic societies, the ones with all the white people with it, as "better." 

Bopeepo, isn't your and Shira's position ultimately, the country's that are "better" have more white people in them?

Obviously no. 

Though it is true that in monoethnic societies, fewer people are as deeply oppressed as minorities are in the US.
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« Reply #76 on: November 09, 2004, 10:18:21 AM »

How can you possibly regard life expectency as a sign of advancement.  A portion of it is genetic and European contries tend to be genetically homogenous.

Yes, America has many races, and the non-white ones tend not to have any medical care.

Actually, that is not rally the case. 

You are comparing largely mono-ethnic societies with multi-ethnic ones.  Then you are suggesting that the mono-ethnic societies, the ones with all the white people with it, as "better." 

Bopeepo, isn't your and Shira's position ultimately, the country's that are "better" have more white people in them?

Obviously no. 

Though it is true that in monoethnic societies, fewer people are as deeply oppressed as minorities are in the US.

Well, I have not seen "oppression" that lowers life expectency at least not on a massive scale.

There is, however, a wide genetic difference in the European population and the US populations.  I do detect more than underlying current of bigotry in your posts.

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« Reply #77 on: November 09, 2004, 05:33:31 PM »


Again and again. Enough with the excuses.
The US is the only country among the developed ones where 15% of its population is without health insurance.
The Health Care system in our country is strongly controlled by the HMOs and the powerful drug companies.
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« Reply #78 on: November 09, 2004, 06:04:19 PM »
« Edited: November 09, 2004, 06:19:14 PM by Philip »

There's nothing wrong with 15% of the population not having health insurance.

Powerful drug companies are as powerful as consumers choose to make them. No more, no less.
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« Reply #79 on: November 09, 2004, 06:22:00 PM »

There's nothing wrong with 15% of the population not having health insurance.

You respond very quickly with yes/no simplistic declarations.
You have to explain why it is not wrong. This what "Passionate Conservatism" is really about?

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Is there a real competition? Do people have the choice not to buy? Even when they try to buy the drugs from Canada, the drug companies (via our government) prevent them from doing so.

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« Reply #80 on: November 09, 2004, 06:27:49 PM »

That's like saying you don't have a choice not to buy food. The point is, you aren't stuck with any particular company.

Why is it wrong for 15% of the population to not have health insurance? I certainly don't need any.
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