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Mr. Smith
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« on: October 08, 2018, 12:04:19 AM »

Considering the circumstances, yes.

So what if the Supreme Court goes, it's been a lost cause on balance since 1969 with Fortas anyway.

It's the lower courts and redistricting that need the attention, and those were swamped GOP during Obama's time and likely would've been swamped even more under Hillary. And there's no guarantee Hillary'd be re-elected in 2020...more likely goes the way of 41...and how would that go for redistricting again? Exactly.

But now, Obamacare is actually definitively unmovable at the core, simple donations rather than dark money are coming into the fold, Southern states [besides Virginia] are actually considering voting for black governors...most notable in Florida where every Democrat not named Bill Nelson seems to flounder at the statewide like.

And the Senate map, while unfavorable yes, likely would've become a supermajority.

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Mr. Smith
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2018, 03:31:08 PM »

It was the worst thing to ever happen to the Democrats - and the country.  We were deprived of our savior and now the Democrats will go hard left (crazy).

Hubert Humphrey and Lyndon Johnson weren't hard left.
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Mr. Smith
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2018, 08:05:11 PM »

Hmm...

1. Democrats are still struggling how to deal with the post-2016 political reality.
2. Trump filled two seats on the Court, with more openings (of crucial seats) possibly to come, which would mean establishing a firm conservative majority for the next generation.
3. Democrats are likely to suffer Senate losses, despite the conventional wisdom, that midterms equals gains for the opposition.

Who cares? At least that nasty neocon corporate $hill is not the President Smiley Smiley Smiley

1. They've done nothing but struggle since 1968 anyway
2. Hillary would've been blocked of those chances anyway
3. So you're saying there'd have been a BlueWave after a bunch of IceSpear's and DeplorableHaters and BLMers got together and managed to smash the pithy Deplorables in their anger?

Oh who cares, at least that orange cheeto saying mean things on Twitter isn't president!
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Mr. Smith
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2018, 06:31:18 PM »

And the biggest House swing since Watergate and gubernatorial gains greater than even 2006 definitely suggest that answer is yes.
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