Smid's Diplomacy Game Thread #3

[Smid]

Turkey's A Bul retreats to Rum.

Prior to builds, the map appears thus:



Turkey gains a build, Russia a disband, all other powers remain the same.

[muon2]

Turkey's A Bul retreats to Rum.

Prior to builds, the map appears thus:



Turkey gains a build, Russia a disband, all other powers remain the same.

I believe Italy has the disband with only 3 centers and 4 units. Russia has 5 centers and 5 units.

[minionofmidas]

I believe muon is right and smid just mistyped.

[Silent Hunter]

That's correct.

[The Mikado]

A Belgium Supports F North Sea - Holland (*Void*)
A Holland Supports F North Sea - Belgium (*Void*)

lol

Reminds me of a line from an Edi Birsan video

Erc should've been more explicit in his PMs.

[Smid]

Sorry - it is indeed my error. I looked too quickly at the "Status" Window in Realpolitik and misread the line with the disband.

So Turkey builds an Army in Constantinople and Italy disbands its Army in Bohemia.

[Smid]

Moves for Spring 1904 were:



France
A Belgium Holds
A Burgundy Supports A Ruhr - Munich
F Gulf of Lyon - Western Mediterranean
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - North Atlantic Ocean
F Picardy - Brest
A Ruhr - Munich

Russia
F Berlin Holds
A Galicia Supports A Silesia - Warsaw (*Cut*)
A Sevastopol Supports A Rumania (*Ordered to Move*)
A Silesia - Warsaw
A Warsaw - Livonia

Italy
F Adriatic Sea S F Ionian Sea - Apulia (*Cut*)
F Ionian Sea - Apulia
A Tuscany - Rome

Germany
F Helgoland Bight - Holland
A Holland - Ruhr
A Kiel Supports A Holland - Ruhr
A Munich Supports A Holland - Ruhr (*Dislodged*)

Austria-Hungary
A Budapest - Galicia (*Fails*)
F Bulgaria (sc) - Greece (*Disbanded*)
A Serbia - Bulgaria (*Fails*)
F Trieste - Adriatic Sea (*Fails*)
A Ukraine - Sevastopol (*Fails*)
A Venice - Tuscany

Turkey
F Aegean Sea Supports F Greece
A Constantinople Supports A Rumania - Bulgaria
F Greece Supports A Rumania - Bulgaria
A Rumania - Bulgaria
A Smyrna Holds

England
F English Channel Supports F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F North Sea Supports F English Channel
F Sweden Holds
A Wales - London

After moves, the map appears thus:



Retreats are required for the German Army in Munich.

[muon2]

Germany
F Helgoland Bight - Holland
A Holland - Ruhr
A Kiel Supports A Holland - Ruhr
A Munich Supports A Holland - Ruhr (*Disbanded*)

After moves, the map appears thus:



Retreats are required for the German Army in Munich.

The map and the retreat are correct, but the orders should show (*Dislodged*) for A mun.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Austria's orders perplex me.

[Smid]

Germany
F Helgoland Bight - Holland
A Holland - Ruhr
A Kiel Supports A Holland - Ruhr
A Munich Supports A Holland - Ruhr (*Disbanded*)

After moves, the map appears thus:



Retreats are required for the German Army in Munich.

The map and the retreat are correct, but the orders should show (*Dislodged*) for A mun.

Cheers for spotting that for me!

[The Mikado]

All this time and I just now notice that North Atlantic connects to Yorkshire?

No big deal, though.  Gustaf's fleet can enjoy their brief occupation of the North Country.  Not much good it'll do him. 

[minionofmidas]

D'you mean Liverpool?

[Erc]

My army in Munich retreats to Tyrolia.

[The Mikado]

D'you mean Liverpool?

Yes, yes I did.  I had my hellish post-industrial wastelands Oop North mixed up.  So sue me.

It'd be like a Brit mixing up Cleveland and Buffalo.  Does it really matter?

[Smid]

My army in Munich retreats to Tyrolia.

[minionofmidas]

D'you mean Liverpool?

Yes, yes I did.  I had my hellish post-industrial wastelands Oop North mixed up.  So sue me.

It'd be like a Brit mixing up Cleveland and Buffalo.

No, no. A group of interrelated areas on the East Coast versus a grubby city on the West Coast? You basically just confused New England with Oakland.

[Silent Hunter]

D'you mean Liverpool?

Yes, yes I did.  I had my hellish post-industrial wastelands Oop North mixed up.  So sue me.

It'd be like a Brit mixing up Cleveland and Buffalo.

No, no. A group of interrelated areas on the East Coast versus a grubby city on the West Coast? You basically just confused New England with Oakland.

But Liverpool has a better football team, by a considerable margin...

[Smid]

The moves for this week were:



France
A Belgium - Ruhr
F Brest Holds
A Burgundy Supports A Munich
A Munich Supports A Belgium - Ruhr
F North Atlantic Ocean - Liverpool
F Western Mediterranean - Tunis

Russia
F Berlin Holds
A Galicia - Budapest (*Fails*)
A Livonia - Moscow
A Sevastopol Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania
A Warsaw Holds

Italy
F Adriatic Sea Supports F Apulia - Venice
F Apulia - Venice
A Rome Supports F Apulia - Venice

Germany
F Holland NMR
A Kiel NMR
A Ruhr NMR (*Disbanded*)
A Tyrolia NMR

Austria-Hungary
A Budapest Supports A Ukraine - Rumania (*Cut*)
A Serbia - Bulgaria (*Fails*)
F Trieste Supports A Tuscany - Venice
A Tuscany - Venice (*Fails*)
A Ukraine - Rumania (*Fails*)

Turkey
F Aegean Sea Supports A Constantinople - Bulgaria
A Bulgaria - Rumania
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Greece Holds
A Smyrna - Constantinople

England
F English Channel Supports A London - Belgium
A London - Belgium
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal
F North Sea Convoys A London - Belgium
F Sweden Holds

The map following these moves appears thus:



There are no retreats required.

Builds are:

F Build 1
R Build 0
I Build 0
G Build 0
A Remove 1
T Build 1
E Build 1

And the Supply Centre Count is:

F 7
R 5
I 3
G 3
A 4
T 6
E 6

[Lunar]

why England doesn't move to Norway or one of those seas next to Sev is interesting.  Seems like you'd either hold Sev hostage or just move into Denmark.

England will certainly own Spain by next turn, maybe she just doesn't want to make any unnecessary enemies. 

[Lunar]

hah, I never even realized that NaO connected to Liverpool

[muon2]

why England doesn't move to Norway or one of those seas next to Sev is interesting.  Seems like you'd either hold Sev hostage or just move into Denmark.

England will certainly own Spain by next turn, maybe she just doesn't want to make any unnecessary enemies. 

On the other side of the map I thought the hold on Greece was interesting. With a hold it couldn't contribute to the turn's action. Had it been used to support the move into Bulgaria, it would have freed up the Aegean fleet to get in position for action in the following spring.

[Smid]

why England doesn't move to Norway or one of those seas next to Sev is interesting.  Seems like you'd either hold Sev hostage or just move into Denmark.

England will certainly own Spain by next turn, maybe she just doesn't want to make any unnecessary enemies. 

On the other side of the map I thought the hold on Greece was interesting. With a hold it couldn't contribute to the turn's action. Had it been used to support the move into Bulgaria, it would have freed up the Aegean fleet to get in position for action in the following spring.

When typing the results, I actually went back and checked my PMs to ensure I hadn't mis-entered the orders for that Fleet in Greece because I was so surprised by it.

[The Mikado]

hah, I never even realized that NaO connected to Liverpool

I had the same reaction upthread a bit.  I was willing to let Gustaf into NAO because I didn't think he'd get into one of my home centers before the year ended and I could build a new unit in LVP or EDI to defend them.

It's hardly a catastrophe.

why England doesn't move to Norway or one of those seas next to Sev is interesting.  Seems like you'd either hold Sev hostage or just move into Denmark.

England will certainly own Spain by next turn, maybe she just doesn't want to make any unnecessary enemies. 

Well, if I'd known Erc would be MIA, I'd have considered it. 

Seriously, though, I'm already at war with France.  Why add Russia and Germany on top of that?

[Associate Justice PiT]

why England doesn't move to Norway or one of those seas next to Sev is interesting.  Seems like you'd either hold Sev hostage or just move into Denmark.

England will certainly own Spain by next turn, maybe she just doesn't want to make any unnecessary enemies. 

On the other side of the map I thought the hold on Greece was interesting. With a hold it couldn't contribute to the turn's action. Had it been used to support the move into Bulgaria, it would have freed up the Aegean fleet to get in position for action in the following spring.

     I wouldn't have moved the Aegean fleet anyway. That doesn't really suit my playing style.

[minionofmidas]

Yeah, what's up with Erc? Giving up?

Why Sweden wouldn't move to Norway is obvious - he has a pact with Teddy. Why he wouldn't move down to Denmark is less obvious, given that Germany looks (and looked before the move) to be crumbling, though maybe he doesn't fully trust Ted.