Civil War in Syria

[Lord Halifax]

It's a shame the Assad regime can't somehow be forced to finally accept they lost the Golan heights and it's Israeli now.

[Lord Halifax]

Yesterday, the Syrian Kurds have met the Assad government in Damascus and held talks about a future military campaign together with the Assad army against the "rebels" and the Turks. I assume if talks fail, the Idlib/Aleppo offensive will start before Christmas.

And if they don't fail it will start right away?

The map is confusing in the NW. The green areas should be rebel held territory, but include some apparently Turkish held areas, and what does white indicate?

[Lord Halifax]

Looks like the Chinese PLA is going to get involved in the Idlib offensive.

What's your source for that?

[Lord Halifax]

Israel has about as much right to be in Syrian airspace as all the other foreign powers, including Russia and the United States.  If you're going to be demand that Israel stay out of Syria, that should apply to everyone else.

Technically false.

Explain.  We all know Russia has been effectively serving as Bashar al-Assad's air force. 

Exactly, they are there with government permission.

[Lord Halifax]

Assads army is advancing, 500000 Syrians are fleeing from him, Erdogan has 3.5 Million already and is desperately trying to push them out, the Arrivals on the Greek Islands are surging... And Tender, the Soros-funded, Islam-Loving, Kalergi plan supporting Globalist shill, is cheering it on

Its almost like the anti-immigration crowd cant put 1 and 1 together...

The only realistic way to end the Syrian civil war is for Assad to win and the only way to get the Syrian refugees to go back is to end the war, so while it creates more refugees here and now it will decrease the Syrian refugee problem going forward. A lot of the Syrians in Turkey and the other neighboring states will be forced home once the fighting is over.

[Lord Halifax]

Assads army is advancing, 500000 Syrians are fleeing from him, Erdogan has 3.5 Million already and is desperately trying to push them out, the Arrivals on the Greek Islands are surging... And Tender, the Soros-funded, Islam-Loving, Kalergi plan supporting Globalist shill, is cheering it on

Its almost like the anti-immigration crowd cant put 1 and 1 together...

The only realistic way to end the Syrian civil war is for Assad to win and the only way to get the Syrian refugees to go back is to end the war, so while it creates more refugees here and now it will decrease the Syrian refugee problem going forward. A lot of the Syrians in Turkey and the other neighboring states will be forced home once the fighting is over.

The Syrians from Turkey, Jordan and Lebanon will be forced back, yes. But the Idea that any more than a miniscule percentage of the Syrians in Europe are ever going back is naive. Every Syrian that gets onto EU territory is de facto there to stay, and no, they are not going to return from a highly developed European Country to a ravaged, dirt poor, corrupt dictatorship, just because the war is over, just like the Tamils never returned, just like the Lebanese never returned, just like the Kurds that fled in the 80s never did, despite all the Assurances to the contrary.
The Turkish-Russian Ceasefire in Idlib was the thing that reduced the number of Refugees going to Europe to its lowest level in six years. But Turk man bad.
And when the Refugees start increasing again, a certain Poster is going to be raging "WHY DONT THE KILLFUGEES JUST STAY WHERE THEY CAME FROM" on one Megathread, while cheering Assad on as throws barrel bombs on them, on this one.

Sure, but that doesn't change the basic fact that you'll get fewer Syrian refugees going to Europe during the next decade if the war ends fast than if it drags out. Ceasefires are temporary by nature, with a few exceptions (Korea, Cyprus), but it was always obvious that Syria wasn't going to be one of those.

You're right that the refugees in Europe won't go back, provided all the current EU countries remain liberal democracies going forward, but's that not a given for some of them (Italy, Greece, the Visegrad countries, Romania, Bulgaria). I don't think you can just assume there'll never be an ethnic cleansing of Arabs and other Muslims in all parts of Europe, that's putting too much faith in the current institutional setup.