UK General Discussion: 2017 and onwards, Mayhem

[DaWN]

It's worth pointing just how sustained, and hideous the antisemitism that Burger (and others have faced).

I think 5 people have been convicted for making death threats against her, she's been forced to attend her own party conference with a bodyguard!. I've sat in meetings where female Jewish MPs have read out sheets of abuse they've been faced, most of it by Labour members.

If I was an MP, and saw myself subject to homophobic abuse from party members for months, and the party failed to act, it would be a principled stance to resign. The same if it was for a BAME member- almost everything possible that Luciana could have done would be dismissed as a publicity grab, and at the end of the day it really doesn't matter what motives some people ascribe to it. It's this sort of casual dismissal which is part of the problem.

Besides, lets review the action of the party. They refused to kick out Ken Livingstone, who compared Zionism to Nazism, they spend months trying to refuse to accept the institutional, and international definition of antisemitism, and they've kept a whole host of disgusting characters like Pete Willsman, and Jim Sheridan. Let's look at just one of the comments they made....

''For almost all my adult life I have had the utmost respect and empathy for the Jewish community and their historic suffering. No longer due to what they and their Blairite plotters are doing to my party and the long suffering people of Britain who need a radical Labour government.''

How can you say that and not be suspended?

Of course there's been a problem with this before Corbyn was leader, but the crucial questions seem to be A.) Why have Labour been so slow to react? B.) Why are antisemites attracted to Labour?

I've never met Adam, but I know lots of colleagues in the party respect him- as a Jewish Cllr in a strongly Jewish community, look, and read his article

https://medium.com/@adamlangleben/my-resignation-from-the-labour-party-fa330afacb86

This is an excellent post, but unfortunately you're wasting your time. Corbyn is infallible to these people. It's all just a fake news Blairite witch hunt to them.

[DaWN]

Cynical ploy to stem voters (and probably MPs as well) bleeding to The Independent Group. Given the intelligence of the average voter, it'll probably work.

[DaWN]

The Conservative party appears to be having some sort of a mental breakdown...

The entire political system is having a very clear and obvious mental breakdown

[DaWN]

Prime Minister Jeremy Corbyn is looking more and more inevitable when the next election occurs.

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[DaWN]

When will it be time for them to support it?

If your great hope to deliver us a second referendum is Jeremy '7 out of 10' Corbyn, then I'm afraid you're going to be disappointed.

[DaWN]

Anyway, I said up thread that the only reason they supported a 2nd ref a few weeks ago was to stop voters and MPs jumping ship and it looks like I've been vindicated. Corbyn won't let anything get in the way of Brexit when he thinks it's going to deliver his socialist utopia. It was never going to be any other way.

I don't think this matters though because even with Labour I doubt there was a 2nd ref majority in the Commons. Outcomes other than No Deal look less and less likely with each passing hour.

[DaWN]

https://www.libdems.org.uk/the-next-chapter-vince

Cable resigning.