Behold, the typical conservative: quite fond of Big Government, as long as the spending is on things he agrees with.
Was this supposed to be a burn?
Are you saying I'm in favor of national defense? Guilty as charged.
Or are you saying I am in favor of Medicare and Social Security? Well, I am guilty of that as well.
My point, however, was that the graph he put up excludes some of the largest budget items to make it appear that national defense is a larger share of the federal budget than it actually is.
Which was a lie of yours that was already addressed.
Where is the lie? I said, and these are my exact words, that Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and interest on the national debt are budget items that are not included in the graph.
You can reply that your graph only represents discretioanry items, but it doesn't change the point. You like those non-discretinary items, so you didn't include them in the graph so as to make the things you don't like seem to be more significant than they are. Defense is the bulk of discretionary spending, so if you limit your graph to discretionary spending, you are able to create a false impression.
Saying that a budget item is non-discretionary is no defense at all. Mandatory spending is 62% of the Federal budget. You have excluded nearly 2/3rds of all spending and your response is effectively that this spending doesn't count!
On your graph, defense is a majority of spending, but when you include all spending, we see that it is only about 1/5th of the budget.
And remember, no one on your side of this acknowledged that your graph only represents discretionary spending until my post forced you to admit you were fudging the facts. Your post did not say anything about discretionary spending. Your graph was not labeled as such. You tried to pull a fast one and you got caught.
I'm sorry but the idea that Libertas likes Medicare and Social Security spending just makes me ROTFLMAO.
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