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Starry Eyed Jagaloon
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« on: October 27, 2017, 04:59:03 PM »

Supporting protectionism is often framed in a "moral" way to help American workers ... I think it's obvious it ends up hurting way more people than it helps, but I respect and empathize with people who support it.  I do not support it, as I think it's terrible economic policy, but it definitely gives me some moral pause...
Really? I feel the exact opposite. Even if protectionism helped a country's own workers (which it doesn't), I find it morally abhorrent to prioritize one's fellow citizens over those of other countries.
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Starry Eyed Jagaloon
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2017, 12:23:03 AM »

Supporting protectionism is often framed in a "moral" way to help American workers ... I think it's obvious it ends up hurting way more people than it helps, but I respect and empathize with people who support it.  I do not support it, as I think it's terrible economic policy, but it definitely gives me some moral pause...
Really? I feel the exact opposite. Even if protectionism helped a country's own workers (which it doesn't), I find it morally abhorrent to prioritize one's fellow citizens over those of other countries.

Literally the inherent responsibility of the government.

Protectionism might not work, but globalism is a joke.
Just like we support global universal human rights, I believe we should support global economic freedoms, such as the free movement of goods, capital, services, and labour. Nation states are obsolete and inherently unfair.
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Starry Eyed Jagaloon
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2017, 11:26:12 PM »

Supporting protectionism is often framed in a "moral" way to help American workers ... I think it's obvious it ends up hurting way more people than it helps, but I respect and empathize with people who support it.  I do not support it, as I think it's terrible economic policy, but it definitely gives me some moral pause...
Really? I feel the exact opposite. Even if protectionism helped a country's own workers (which it doesn't), I find it morally abhorrent to prioritize one's fellow citizens over those of other countries.

Literally the inherent responsibility of the government.

Protectionism might not work, but globalism is a joke.
Just like we support global universal human rights, I believe we should support global economic freedoms, such as the free movement of goods, capital, services, and labour. Nation states are obsolete and inherently unfair.

Thanks for the ethics lesson, banker.

It's sad that caring for the global poor is now considered right wing.
Thanks. And that being a banker (which I am not) is now the pinnacle of evil. Regardless, both bankers can benefit from the GDP-doubling which would occur with open borders. (Which does not mean no security or border checkpoints--it means no visas are required to move somewhere and citizenship takes place wherever you currently live,not where you're born.)
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Starry Eyed Jagaloon
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2017, 11:29:33 PM »

Supporting protectionism is often framed in a "moral" way to help American workers ... I think it's obvious it ends up hurting way more people than it helps, but I respect and empathize with people who support it.  I do not support it, as I think it's terrible economic policy, but it definitely gives me some moral pause...
Really? I feel the exact opposite. Even if protectionism helped a country's own workers (which it doesn't), I find it morally abhorrent to prioritize one's fellow citizens over those of other countries.

Literally the inherent responsibility of the government.

Protectionism might not work, but globalism is a joke.
Just like we support global universal human rights, I believe we should support global economic freedoms, such as the free movement of goods, capital, services, and labour. Nation states are obsolete and inherently unfair.

Thanks for the ethics lesson, banker.

It's sad that caring for the global poor is now considered right wing.

Private and religious organizations take care of the global poor because that's what they're meant for.  The US government and military were never established to serve any country other than the United States.
Sure, but the US, like everyone, benefits from globalization. Also, religious organizations and charities can't/shouldn't serve the whole world, and the economic gains the global poor receive from free trade and open borders dwarf any aid we could ever provide them. Besides, in this day and age there is no entity, other than the United States government, who can practically help people all over the world, so we must be compassionate and outward looking.
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