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What downballot outcome in any race this cycle, congressional or state-level, would excite you the most?

(Individual races only, no chamber control)

No, because by bringing the case through a proxy they can claim they are not involved, when in fact they are.
And don't play dumb.
Bragg would never have brought the charges if Biden had told him not to.

Why didn't Biden just tell Vance to bring the charges? He passed on this case.

Biden didn't tell anyone to bring any charges.
He just didn't stop anyone from bringing charges.

Either you're very confused or just trolling at this point.

Could be both.  They're not mutually exclusive.

Opinions you don't like =/= trolling. You can't muzzle every single person who disagrees. You'd have to get rid of every single Republican or independent on this forum.

Maybe you need to learn the difference between a valid opinion and a whacked out conspiracy theory with no evidence. Not all 'opinions' are of equal merit.

I just found this meme yesterday and it fits here:

Essentially, what you’re saying is if people are skeptical of Joe Biden in any slight way, they don’t belong here. That criticism of any kind is going to increasingly be cracked down upon as Election Day draws near. Correct?

No, what I'm saying is that if people are going to make charges against any individual, that they need to have positive evidence. Anybody can throw out any negative charge they like and it's impossible to refute completely. There is the saying: "one can't disprove a negative."

So, the onus is on the person making the charge to provide evidence, and none was provided in this case.

I can similarly easily say that until Jeffrey Epstein's death, that he and Donald Trump would spend every night together raping women and you have no way of disproving it, but that doesn't make it true. I'm not a mod here but if you think this is an acceptable line of discourse, maybe you should be posting someplace else.

I feel like you thought the last paragraph would bother me, but id have to actually like Donald Trump to care about defamations on his character. Disliking Joe Biden doesn’t mean you like Trump. Defending someone who was implicitly threatened with a ban for having an out there opinion doesn’t mean you agree with their opinion. It just means you feel they shouldn’t be censored for having it. Dude may have a belief you or I disagree with but he wasn’t mistreating anyone or engaging in hateful language.

The response was "either you're very confused or you're just trolling at this point." I fail to see the word 'censor' in there. If somebody makes a comment, it is also free speech for somebody to respond, including in ways that you or the OP may not like.

Coming from a mod, the answer that the person was possibly doing both strikes as an implicit threat, due to the power disparity between regular user and staff member. Which is why I defended him (or her).

Since the main site is going to be slow, and I don't want to end up putting 20 tweets in a post, I'm just going to copy the polling site (precinct) data from Scholtz's twitter.

Presenterskraal, Phumelela, Free State

ANC 65% (-3)
DA 18% (+8)
FF+ 12% (-)
MK 4% (+4)

Turnout 49% (-6)

Small VD. 51 votes in total.

Bloukraans Farm, Mafube, Free State

FF+ 9 votes (-3 votes)
DA 6 votes (+5 votes)

I love these tiny VDs

Another Farm, Mafube, Free State:

FF+ 47% (+21)
DA 26% (+2)
ANC 13% (-26)

Turnout: 44% (-30)

Another tiny VD. 38 votes in total.

IEC results starting to flow in the backend data now.

Zinini Secondary School, Mbizana, Eastern Cape:

ANC 80% (-13)
MK 8% (+8)
EFF 6% (-)
DA 3% (+3)

Turnout 38% (-19)

Small VD. 96 voters in total.

Florence Store in Msukaligwa, Mpumalanga ward 19:

ANC 65% (-13)
EFF 15% (+13)
MK 8% (+8)

Turnout: 60% (-12)

It's a small VD (197 votes). But that's a 13 point swing against the ANC in rural heartland territory. That's in the red zone.

The people in charge support it. Remember what they did to Abdullah. Remember what they did to bronz.

“Remember what they did to the absolute worst people on this forum.”

First they came for Abdullah
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a homophobe

Then they came for Tender Branson
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a sockmaker

Then they came for bronz
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a segregationist

Then they came for heatcharger
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a troll

Then they came for me
So I scrambled my password and locked myself out of my account

No, because by bringing the case through a proxy they can claim they are not involved, when in fact they are.
And don't play dumb.
Bragg would never have brought the charges if Biden had told him not to.

Why didn't Biden just tell Vance to bring the charges? He passed on this case.

Biden didn't tell anyone to bring any charges.
He just didn't stop anyone from bringing charges.

Either you're very confused or just trolling at this point.

Could be both.  They're not mutually exclusive.

Opinions you don't like =/= trolling. You can't muzzle every single person who disagrees. You'd have to get rid of every single Republican or independent on this forum.

Maybe you need to learn the difference between a valid opinion and a whacked out conspiracy theory with no evidence. Not all 'opinions' are of equal merit.

I just found this meme yesterday and it fits here:

Essentially, what you’re saying is if people are skeptical of Joe Biden in any slight way, they don’t belong here. That criticism of any kind is going to increasingly be cracked down upon as Election Day draws near. Correct?

No, what I'm saying is that if people are going to make charges against any individual, that they need to have positive evidence. Anybody can throw out any negative charge they like and it's impossible to refute completely. There is the saying: "one can't disprove a negative."

So, the onus is on the person making the charge to provide evidence, and none was provided in this case.

I can similarly easily say that until Jeffrey Epstein's death, that he and Donald Trump would spend every night together raping women and you have no way of disproving it, but that doesn't make it true. I'm not a mod here but if you think this is an acceptable line of discourse, maybe you should be posting someplace else.

I feel like you thought the last paragraph would bother me, but id have to actually like Donald Trump to care about defamations on his character. Disliking Joe Biden doesn’t mean you like Trump. Defending someone who was implicitly threatened with a ban for having an out there opinion doesn’t mean you agree with their opinion. It just means you feel they shouldn’t be censored for having it. Dude may have a belief you or I disagree with but he wasn’t mistreating anyone or engaging in hateful language.

The response was "either you're very confused or you're just trolling at this point." I fail to see the word 'censor' in there. If somebody makes a comment, it is also free speech for somebody to respond, including in ways that you or the OP may not like.

Definitely Lautenberg (both).

"A Finnish translation of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s historical novel Refugees was received by librarian Heini Strand on Monday at the main desk at the Helsinki Central Library Oodi.

“The due date of the loan was 26 December 1939,” Strand said, adding that she had never received a book so long overdue.

The relationship between the person who happily returned the book and the original borrower remained unknown.

“Usually these kinds of loans returned decades after the due date are books found when people go through deceased relatives’ belongings,” Strand said.

“People want to do the right thing and return the book that is the library’s property … I think that is lovely,” she added.

A likely explanation for the delayed return was that the due date fell a month after the Soviet Union’s invasion of Finland in November 1939, Strand noted. “The return of the book might not have been the first thing on the borrower’s mind when the due date approached.”

The winter war between Finland and the Soviet Union raged between the neighbouring countries until March 1940, when a peace treaty was signed, forcing Finland to make significant land cessions.

“If the person survived the war, the person probably had other things on their mind than returning the book,” Strand said."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/29/book-borrowed-from-finnish-library-in-1939-returned-84-years-late

What’s the most likely scenario outcome? Most talk has been how the ANC has a good chance of losing power but most polls had them well ahead of the DA so is it a case of people thinking they won’t be able to form a coalition government?

National-level Coalitions are a whole new thing for modern South Africa, so nobody really knows. Obviously the shape of the results matters, things are more complex with the ANC closer to 35% than 45%. Locally, there are coalitions and confine groups, often between seemingly incompatible parties. Theoretically, anything is possible. 


But ANC are going to come in first unless the polls are really off. It's just the other groupings are expected to be sizable actors as well.

Part is hoping the ANC goes down as the ANC finally losing could be the wake-up call for them to get their crap together and also because a South Africa lead by the DA would send red velvet in a tailspin lol

Given where things are at, and who the DA would have to work with  - and how those relationships have worked out locally - I doubt SA's going to have a White Guy at the top even if there is an anti-ANC coalition. Like the DA and EFF seem mutually incompatible but locally that is not the case. If that is to be the same nationally, then serious compromises in that vein will be needed.

https://twitter.com/asharangappa_/status/1795876740528746978

Piece of work s***.

What’s the most likely scenario outcome? Most talk has been how the ANC has a good chance of losing power but most polls had them well ahead of the DA so is it a case of people thinking they won’t be able to form a coalition government?

National-level Coalitions are a whole new thing for modern South Africa, so nobody really knows. Obviously the shape of the results matters, things are more complex with the ANC closer to 35% than 45%. Locally, there are coalitions and confine groups, often between seemingly incompatible parties. Theoretically, anything is possible. 


But ANC are going to come in first unless the polls are really off. It's just the other groupings are expected to be sizable actors as well.

Part is hoping the ANC goes down as the ANC finally losing could be the wake-up call for them to get their crap together and also because a South Africa lead by the DA would send red velvet in a tailspin lol

Not getting my hopes up the the total BRICS meltdown would be hilarious.