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Gustaf
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« on: February 25, 2012, 04:11:00 AM »

Wow, the condescension and bigotry of some people on here is a bit surprising.

I have a close gay friend who is VERY conservative. He always claimed that gay people, not having children, are a lot less dependent on the state and therefore more inclined to be economically conservative. I don't know how true that is but I think there might be something to it.

Also, I could imagine some gays simply might not be particularly interested in marriage. Again, from my gay friends I get the impression that there is a sizeable chunk of gays who don't care much for monogamous relationships in general. Since the GOP does not constitute a real threat to basic human rights in other areas, it might make sense for such people to vote Republican.
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2012, 06:35:28 AM »

Wow, the condescension and bigotry of some people on here is a bit surprising.

I have a close gay friend who is VERY conservative. He always claimed that gay people, not having children, are a lot less dependent on the state and therefore more inclined to be economically conservative. I don't know how true that is but I think there might be something to it.

Also, I could imagine some gays simply might not be particularly interested in marriage. Again, from my gay friends I get the impression that there is a sizeable chunk of gays who don't care much for monogamous relationships in general. Since the GOP does not constitute a real threat to basic human rights in other areas, it might make sense for such people to vote Republican.

GOP opposition to LGBT goes far beyond just marriage. Many do not support any recognition of LGBT relationships including domestic partnerships.  Many do not support the rights of gays and lesbians to serve in the military or adopt children.  Many do not support including LGBT under any sort of anti-discrimination laws, so one could be fired or evicted for being gay.  Many do not support (positive) discussion of homosexuality in public sex ed classes -- a time when many young gay teens feel vulnerable.  When the U.S. Supreme Court declared sodomy laws unconstitutional in 2003, I heard some conservatives voice strong support for such laws -- Scalia was sadly not alone in his thinking.  

Some gays are obsessed with other political issues and/or are economically and socially insulated from the problems most gays face and they may not care at all about such things.  But they are in the minority.  There is a reason why Paul Babeu kept his sexuality under wraps all these years -- he knew the dynamics of his party as well as anyone.  After watching the rhetoric and positions of the GOP Presidential candidates this season (especially Rick Santorum) and watching the GOP Presidential debate audience boo a gay soldier serving in Iraq, one can see that the fact most LGBT do not support the GOP is not some big misunderstanding.

I don't think anyone is contesting that most gays vote Democrat or that they don't have good reasons to do so since Democrats in general are more gay-friendly (for lack of a better word).

I was just reacting to the notion that people should vote certain ways based on your or my or anyone else's values and beliefs.

I just suspect some gay people might be a lot less affected or care a lot less about some of those issues you bring up.
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