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« Reply #75 on: February 05, 2010, 05:30:44 AM »

See, Edu ?
When the survivor nears its end, there is always a bigger turnout.

I warn everybody that I keep the right to give more votes to the 6 regular voters.
I know, it's unfair, but every survivor manager can do what he wants in his survivor (in game rules, I mean).
Fortunately, all the "modern" debates are behind us now (Menem, Kirchners), so I think it will keep on being smooth.
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« Reply #76 on: February 06, 2010, 09:41:31 AM »



1. Bernardino Rivadavia (1826-1827)
2. Vicente López y Planes (1827)
3. Manuel Dorrego (1827-1828)
4. Juan Lavalle (1828-1829)
5. Juan José Viamonte (1829, 1833-1834)
6. Juan Manuel de Rosas (1829-1832, 1835-1852)
7. Juan Ramón Balcarce (1832-1833)
8. Manuel Vicente Maza (1834-1835)
9. Justo José de Urquiza (1852-1860)
10. Santiago Derqui (1860-1861)
11. Juan Esteban Pedernera (1861)
12. Bartolomé Mitre (1862-1868)
13. Domingo Faustino Sarmiento (1868-1874)
14. Nicolás Avellaneda (1874-1880)
15. Julio Argentino Roca (1880-1886, 1898-1904)
16. Miguel Juárez Celman (1886-1890)
17. Carlos Pellegrini (1890-1892)
18. Luis Sáenz Peña (1892-1895)
19. José Evaristo Uriburu (1895-1898)
20. Manuel Quintana (1904-1906)
21. José Figueroa Alcorta (1906-1910)
22. Roque Sáenz Peña (1910-1914)
23. Victorino de la Plaza (1914-1916)
24. Hipólito Yrigoyen (1916-1922, 1928-1930)
25. Marcelo Torcuato de Alvear (1922-1928)
26. José Félix Uriburu (1930-1932)
27. Agustín Pedro Justo (1932-1938)
28. Roberto María Ortiz (1938-1942)
29. Ramón Castillo (1942-1943)
30. Arturo Rawson (1943)
31. Pedro Pablo Ramírez (1943-1944)
32. Edelmiro Julián Farrell (1944-1946)
33. Juan Domingo Perón (1946-1955, 1973-1974)
34. José Domingo Molina Gómez (1955)
35. Eduardo Lonardi (1955)
36. Pedro Eugenio Aramburu (1955-1958)
37. Arturo Frondizi (1958-1962)
38. José Maria Guido (1962-1963)
39. Arturo Umberto Illia (1963-1966)
40. Juan Carlos Onganía (1966-1970)
41. Roberto Levingston (1970-1971)
42. Alejandro Lanusse (1971-1973)
43. Héctor José Campora (1973)
44. Raúl Alberto Lastiri (1973)
45. Isabel Perón (1974-1976)
46. Jorge Rafael Videla (1976-1980)
47. Roberto Eduardo Viola (1980-1981)
48. Leopoldo Galtieri (1981-1982)
49. Reynaldo Bignone (1982-1983)
50. Raúl Alfonsín (1983-1989)
51. Carlos Menem (1989-1999)
52. Fernando de la Rúa (1999-2001)
53. Adolfo Rodríguez Saá (2001)
54. Eduardo Duhalde (2002-2003)
55. Néstor Kirchner (2003-2007)
56. Cristina Fernández de Kirchner (2007-…)

ResultsSad
Round one: Videla 7, J.F. Uriburu 4, Viola 2, Aramburu 1, Rosas 1, Menem 1
Round two: Aramburu 4, Rosas 4, Viola 2, Ongania 1, Roca 1
Round three: Roca 3, Viola 3, Ongania 2, Lavalle 2, Sarmiento 1, Mitre 1, Galtieri 1, Bignone 1
Round four: Ongania 5, Lavalle 2 (2 in previous rounds), Isabel Peron 2 (0 in previous rounds), Galtieri 1, Sarmiento 1, Urquiza 1
Round five: Isabel Peron 5, Ramirez 3, Galtieri 1, Sarmiento 1
Round six: Galtieri 4, Farrell 3, Sarmiento 1, Urquiza 1, Guido 1, Lanusse 1, Levingston 1
Round seven: Lanusse 5, Levingston 5, Urquiza 2, Sarmiento 1, Guido 1
Round eight: Molina Gomez 5, Guido 2 (2 in previous rounds), Rawson 2 (0 in previous rounds), Justo 2 (0 in previous rounds), Urquiza 1
Round nine: Rawson 5, Justo 5, Urquiza 1, Pedernera 1
Round ten: Urquiza 5, Lastiri 4, Pedernera 2, Lonardi 1
Round eleven: Bignone 4, Pedernera 3 (3 in previous rounds), Lonardi 3 (1 in previous rounds), Juarez Celman 1, Quintana 1
Round twelve: Juarez Celman 5, Lonardi 4, Quintana 1, Campora 1, Castillo 1
Round thirteen: Campora 4, Quintana 3, Castillo 1, C. Kirchner 1, Menem 1
Round fourteen: J.E. Uriburu 4, Balcarce 2 (0 in previous rounds+Caudillo's decision), Figueroa Alcorta 2 (0 in previous rounds), Castillo 1, Menem 1, Torcuato de Alvear 1, Lopez y Planes 1
Round fifteen: Figueroa Alcorta 4, Lopez y Planes 4, Castillo 2, Menem 1, Maza 1
Round sixteen: Maza 5, Castillo 2 (5 in previous rounds), Torcuato de Alvear 2 (1 in previous rounds), Rodriguez Saa 1
Round seventeen: Rodriguez Saa 3, de la Rua 3, Torcuato de Alvear 1, Menem 1, Pellegrini 1, Dorrego 1
Round eighteen: Luis Saenz Pena 3, Dorrego 3, Viamonte 2, Pellegrini 1, Derqui 1
Round nineteen: Viamonte 5, Pellegrini 4, Menem 3
Round twenty: C. Kirchner 5, Menem 4, Derqui 2, Torcuato de Alvear 1
Round twenty-one: Derqui 6, Torcuato de Alvear 3, Mitre 1, Avellaneda 1, Duhalde 1
Round twenty-two: de la Plaza 3, Mitre 2 (2 in previous rounds), Avellaneda 2 (1 in previous rounds), Duhalde 2 (1 in previous rounds), N. Kirchner 2 (0 in previous rounds), R. Saenz Pena 1
Round twenty-three: Avellaneda 6, N. Kirchner 3, R. Saenz Pena 2, J. Peron 1
Round twenty-four: Roque Saenz Pena 2 (3 in previous rounds), J. Peron 2 (1 in previous rounds), Rivadavia 2 (0 in previous rounds)
Round twenty-five: Rivadavia 4, J. Peron 2
Round twenty-six: Ortiz 4, J. Peron 2
Round twenty-seven: Duhalde 5, J. Peron 3

In each round, you vote for the presidents or head of state you want to eliminate.
In case of a tie, the president who has received the biggest total of votes in previous rounds is eliminated. In case of a new tie, I, Caudillo of this Survivor, will decide.
Each round is open for 24 hours+

ROUND TWENTY-EIGHT IS OPEN !
Vote away !

Beware ! Now you've got only 1 vote !
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« Reply #77 on: February 06, 2010, 09:46:27 AM »

It's not very readable any longer...

We've got 6 left:
Sarmiento
Yrigoyen
Peron
Frondizi
Illia
Alfonsin

Will Peron make it to the top 5 ?

As for me, I vote for
Sarmiento

Even though I'm myself tempted to kick Peron out Grin
(a pity PiT doesn't vote any more, here: he has already voted a lot for Sarmiento)
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« Reply #78 on: February 07, 2010, 12:11:53 PM »

Mmmm... with Gully and Edu, even with Kal voting otherwise, Peron seems to be doomed... Sad
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« Reply #79 on: February 08, 2010, 03:41:19 AM »

No Edu ? No Gully ? No Kal ?
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« Reply #80 on: February 08, 2010, 10:50:47 AM »


No problem. I haven't put a delay for changing a vote, so it's OK.

(I doubt it will be enough, though, because I won't close the round until Edu has voted; even if Kal votes for Sarmiento, a tie will boot Peron out... Sad But he really deserves to go, you know Wink)
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« Reply #81 on: February 09, 2010, 04:01:46 AM »



1. Bernardino Rivadavia (1826-1827)
2. Vicente López y Planes (1827)
3. Manuel Dorrego (1827-1828)
4. Juan Lavalle (1828-1829)
5. Juan José Viamonte (1829, 1833-1834)
6. Juan Manuel de Rosas (1829-1832, 1835-1852)
7. Juan Ramón Balcarce (1832-1833)
8. Manuel Vicente Maza (1834-1835)
9. Justo José de Urquiza (1852-1860)
10. Santiago Derqui (1860-1861)
11. Juan Esteban Pedernera (1861)
12. Bartolomé Mitre (1862-1868)
13. Domingo Faustino Sarmiento (1868-1874)
14. Nicolás Avellaneda (1874-1880)
15. Julio Argentino Roca (1880-1886, 1898-1904)
16. Miguel Juárez Celman (1886-1890)
17. Carlos Pellegrini (1890-1892)
18. Luis Sáenz Peña (1892-1895)
19. José Evaristo Uriburu (1895-1898)
20. Manuel Quintana (1904-1906)
21. José Figueroa Alcorta (1906-1910)
22. Roque Sáenz Peña (1910-1914)
23. Victorino de la Plaza (1914-1916)
24. Hipólito Yrigoyen (1916-1922, 1928-1930)
25. Marcelo Torcuato de Alvear (1922-1928)
26. José Félix Uriburu (1930-1932)
27. Agustín Pedro Justo (1932-1938)
28. Roberto María Ortiz (1938-1942)
29. Ramón Castillo (1942-1943)
30. Arturo Rawson (1943)
31. Pedro Pablo Ramírez (1943-1944)
32. Edelmiro Julián Farrell (1944-1946)
33. Juan Domingo Perón (1946-1955, 1973-1974)
34. José Domingo Molina Gómez (1955)
35. Eduardo Lonardi (1955)
36. Pedro Eugenio Aramburu (1955-1958)
37. Arturo Frondizi (1958-1962)
38. José Maria Guido (1962-1963)
39. Arturo Umberto Illia (1963-1966)
40. Juan Carlos Onganía (1966-1970)
41. Roberto Levingston (1970-1971)
42. Alejandro Lanusse (1971-1973)
43. Héctor José Campora (1973)
44. Raúl Alberto Lastiri (1973)
45. Isabel Perón (1974-1976)
46. Jorge Rafael Videla (1976-1980)
47. Roberto Eduardo Viola (1980-1981)
48. Leopoldo Galtieri (1981-1982)
49. Reynaldo Bignone (1982-1983)
50. Raúl Alfonsín (1983-1989)
51. Carlos Menem (1989-1999)
52. Fernando de la Rúa (1999-2001)
53. Adolfo Rodríguez Saá (2001)
54. Eduardo Duhalde (2002-2003)
55. Néstor Kirchner (2003-2007)
56. Cristina Fernández de Kirchner (2007-…)

ResultsSad
Round one: Videla 7, J.F. Uriburu 4, Viola 2, Aramburu 1, Rosas 1, Menem 1
Round two: Aramburu 4, Rosas 4, Viola 2, Ongania 1, Roca 1
Round three: Roca 3, Viola 3, Ongania 2, Lavalle 2, Sarmiento 1, Mitre 1, Galtieri 1, Bignone 1
Round four: Ongania 5, Lavalle 2 (2 in previous rounds), Isabel Peron 2 (0 in previous rounds), Galtieri 1, Sarmiento 1, Urquiza 1
Round five: Isabel Peron 5, Ramirez 3, Galtieri 1, Sarmiento 1
Round six: Galtieri 4, Farrell 3, Sarmiento 1, Urquiza 1, Guido 1, Lanusse 1, Levingston 1
Round seven: Lanusse 5, Levingston 5, Urquiza 2, Sarmiento 1, Guido 1
Round eight: Molina Gomez 5, Guido 2 (2 in previous rounds), Rawson 2 (0 in previous rounds), Justo 2 (0 in previous rounds), Urquiza 1
Round nine: Rawson 5, Justo 5, Urquiza 1, Pedernera 1
Round ten: Urquiza 5, Lastiri 4, Pedernera 2, Lonardi 1
Round eleven: Bignone 4, Pedernera 3 (3 in previous rounds), Lonardi 3 (1 in previous rounds), Juarez Celman 1, Quintana 1
Round twelve: Juarez Celman 5, Lonardi 4, Quintana 1, Campora 1, Castillo 1
Round thirteen: Campora 4, Quintana 3, Castillo 1, C. Kirchner 1, Menem 1
Round fourteen: J.E. Uriburu 4, Balcarce 2 (0 in previous rounds+Caudillo's decision), Figueroa Alcorta 2 (0 in previous rounds), Castillo 1, Menem 1, Torcuato de Alvear 1, Lopez y Planes 1
Round fifteen: Figueroa Alcorta 4, Lopez y Planes 4, Castillo 2, Menem 1, Maza 1
Round sixteen: Maza 5, Castillo 2 (5 in previous rounds), Torcuato de Alvear 2 (1 in previous rounds), Rodriguez Saa 1
Round seventeen: Rodriguez Saa 3, de la Rua 3, Torcuato de Alvear 1, Menem 1, Pellegrini 1, Dorrego 1
Round eighteen: Luis Saenz Pena 3, Dorrego 3, Viamonte 2, Pellegrini 1, Derqui 1
Round nineteen: Viamonte 5, Pellegrini 4, Menem 3
Round twenty: C. Kirchner 5, Menem 4, Derqui 2, Torcuato de Alvear 1
Round twenty-one: Derqui 6, Torcuato de Alvear 3, Mitre 1, Avellaneda 1, Duhalde 1
Round twenty-two: de la Plaza 3, Mitre 2 (2 in previous rounds), Avellaneda 2 (1 in previous rounds), Duhalde 2 (1 in previous rounds), N. Kirchner 2 (0 in previous rounds), R. Saenz Pena 1
Round twenty-three: Avellaneda 6, N. Kirchner 3, R. Saenz Pena 2, J. Peron 1
Round twenty-four: Roque Saenz Pena 2 (3 in previous rounds), J. Peron 2 (1 in previous rounds), Rivadavia 2 (0 in previous rounds)
Round twenty-five: Rivadavia 4, J. Peron 2
Round twenty-six: Ortiz 4, J. Peron 2
Round twenty-seven: Duhalde 5, J. Peron 3
Round twenty-eight: J. Peron 4, Sarmiento 3

In each round, you vote for the presidents or head of state you want to eliminate.
In case of a tie, the president who has received the biggest total of votes in previous rounds is eliminated. In case of a new tie, I, Caudillo of this Survivor, will decide.
Each round is open for 24 hours+

ROUND TWENTY-NINE IS OPEN !
Vote away !

Beware ! Now you've got only 1 vote !
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« Reply #82 on: February 09, 2010, 04:03:25 AM »

So... he is out...

Sarmiento again.
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« Reply #83 on: February 10, 2010, 03:23:53 AM »

Even if we know the loser, we wait for Edu.
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« Reply #84 on: February 11, 2010, 04:36:13 AM »



1. Bernardino Rivadavia (1826-1827)
2. Vicente López y Planes (1827)
3. Manuel Dorrego (1827-1828)
4. Juan Lavalle (1828-1829)
5. Juan José Viamonte (1829, 1833-1834)
6. Juan Manuel de Rosas (1829-1832, 1835-1852)
7. Juan Ramón Balcarce (1832-1833)
8. Manuel Vicente Maza (1834-1835)
9. Justo José de Urquiza (1852-1860)
10. Santiago Derqui (1860-1861)
11. Juan Esteban Pedernera (1861)
12. Bartolomé Mitre (1862-1868)
13. Domingo Faustino Sarmiento (1868-1874)
14. Nicolás Avellaneda (1874-1880)
15. Julio Argentino Roca (1880-1886, 1898-1904)
16. Miguel Juárez Celman (1886-1890)
17. Carlos Pellegrini (1890-1892)
18. Luis Sáenz Peña (1892-1895)
19. José Evaristo Uriburu (1895-1898)
20. Manuel Quintana (1904-1906)
21. José Figueroa Alcorta (1906-1910)
22. Roque Sáenz Peña (1910-1914)
23. Victorino de la Plaza (1914-1916)
24. Hipólito Yrigoyen (1916-1922, 1928-1930)
25. Marcelo Torcuato de Alvear (1922-1928)
26. José Félix Uriburu (1930-1932)
27. Agustín Pedro Justo (1932-1938)
28. Roberto María Ortiz (1938-1942)
29. Ramón Castillo (1942-1943)
30. Arturo Rawson (1943)
31. Pedro Pablo Ramírez (1943-1944)
32. Edelmiro Julián Farrell (1944-1946)
33. Juan Domingo Perón (1946-1955, 1973-1974)
34. José Domingo Molina Gómez (1955)
35. Eduardo Lonardi (1955)
36. Pedro Eugenio Aramburu (1955-1958)
37. Arturo Frondizi (1958-1962)
38. José Maria Guido (1962-1963)
39. Arturo Umberto Illia (1963-1966)
40. Juan Carlos Onganía (1966-1970)
41. Roberto Levingston (1970-1971)
42. Alejandro Lanusse (1971-1973)
43. Héctor José Campora (1973)
44. Raúl Alberto Lastiri (1973)
45. Isabel Perón (1974-1976)
46. Jorge Rafael Videla (1976-1980)
47. Roberto Eduardo Viola (1980-1981)
48. Leopoldo Galtieri (1981-1982)
49. Reynaldo Bignone (1982-1983)
50. Raúl Alfonsín (1983-1989)
51. Carlos Menem (1989-1999)
52. Fernando de la Rúa (1999-2001)
53. Adolfo Rodríguez Saá (2001)
54. Eduardo Duhalde (2002-2003)
55. Néstor Kirchner (2003-2007)
56. Cristina Fernández de Kirchner (2007-…)

ResultsSad
Round one: Videla 7, J.F. Uriburu 4, Viola 2, Aramburu 1, Rosas 1, Menem 1
Round two: Aramburu 4, Rosas 4, Viola 2, Ongania 1, Roca 1
Round three: Roca 3, Viola 3, Ongania 2, Lavalle 2, Sarmiento 1, Mitre 1, Galtieri 1, Bignone 1
Round four: Ongania 5, Lavalle 2 (2 in previous rounds), Isabel Peron 2 (0 in previous rounds), Galtieri 1, Sarmiento 1, Urquiza 1
Round five: Isabel Peron 5, Ramirez 3, Galtieri 1, Sarmiento 1
Round six: Galtieri 4, Farrell 3, Sarmiento 1, Urquiza 1, Guido 1, Lanusse 1, Levingston 1
Round seven: Lanusse 5, Levingston 5, Urquiza 2, Sarmiento 1, Guido 1
Round eight: Molina Gomez 5, Guido 2 (2 in previous rounds), Rawson 2 (0 in previous rounds), Justo 2 (0 in previous rounds), Urquiza 1
Round nine: Rawson 5, Justo 5, Urquiza 1, Pedernera 1
Round ten: Urquiza 5, Lastiri 4, Pedernera 2, Lonardi 1
Round eleven: Bignone 4, Pedernera 3 (3 in previous rounds), Lonardi 3 (1 in previous rounds), Juarez Celman 1, Quintana 1
Round twelve: Juarez Celman 5, Lonardi 4, Quintana 1, Campora 1, Castillo 1
Round thirteen: Campora 4, Quintana 3, Castillo 1, C. Kirchner 1, Menem 1
Round fourteen: J.E. Uriburu 4, Balcarce 2 (0 in previous rounds+Caudillo's decision), Figueroa Alcorta 2 (0 in previous rounds), Castillo 1, Menem 1, Torcuato de Alvear 1, Lopez y Planes 1
Round fifteen: Figueroa Alcorta 4, Lopez y Planes 4, Castillo 2, Menem 1, Maza 1
Round sixteen: Maza 5, Castillo 2 (5 in previous rounds), Torcuato de Alvear 2 (1 in previous rounds), Rodriguez Saa 1
Round seventeen: Rodriguez Saa 3, de la Rua 3, Torcuato de Alvear 1, Menem 1, Pellegrini 1, Dorrego 1
Round eighteen: Luis Saenz Pena 3, Dorrego 3, Viamonte 2, Pellegrini 1, Derqui 1
Round nineteen: Viamonte 5, Pellegrini 4, Menem 3
Round twenty: C. Kirchner 5, Menem 4, Derqui 2, Torcuato de Alvear 1
Round twenty-one: Derqui 6, Torcuato de Alvear 3, Mitre 1, Avellaneda 1, Duhalde 1
Round twenty-two: de la Plaza 3, Mitre 2 (2 in previous rounds), Avellaneda 2 (1 in previous rounds), Duhalde 2 (1 in previous rounds), N. Kirchner 2 (0 in previous rounds), R. Saenz Pena 1
Round twenty-three: Avellaneda 6, N. Kirchner 3, R. Saenz Pena 2, J. Peron 1
Round twenty-four: Roque Saenz Pena 2 (3 in previous rounds), J. Peron 2 (1 in previous rounds), Rivadavia 2 (0 in previous rounds)
Round twenty-five: Rivadavia 4, J. Peron 2
Round twenty-six: Ortiz 4, J. Peron 2
Round twenty-seven: Duhalde 5, J. Peron 3
Round twenty-eight: J. Peron 4, Sarmiento 3
Round twenty-nine: Yrigoyen 3, Sarmiento 2, Illia 1

In each round, you vote for the presidents or head of state you want to eliminate.
In case of a tie, the president who has received the biggest total of votes in previous rounds is eliminated. In case of a new tie, I, Caudillo of this Survivor, will decide.
Each round is open for 24 hours+

ROUND THIRTY IS OPEN !
Vote away !

Beware ! Now you've got only 1 vote !
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« Reply #85 on: February 11, 2010, 04:38:33 AM »

I'm a bit sad Yrigoyen has gone. Argentina in the 1910s-1920s is a bit mythical for me. Sad

Anyway,

Sarmiento should really go, now.
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« Reply #86 on: February 12, 2010, 04:44:42 AM »



1. Bernardino Rivadavia (1826-1827)
2. Vicente López y Planes (1827)
3. Manuel Dorrego (1827-1828)
4. Juan Lavalle (1828-1829)
5. Juan José Viamonte (1829, 1833-1834)
6. Juan Manuel de Rosas (1829-1832, 1835-1852)
7. Juan Ramón Balcarce (1832-1833)
8. Manuel Vicente Maza (1834-1835)
9. Justo José de Urquiza (1852-1860)
10. Santiago Derqui (1860-1861)
11. Juan Esteban Pedernera (1861)
12. Bartolomé Mitre (1862-1868)
13. Domingo Faustino Sarmiento (1868-1874)
14. Nicolás Avellaneda (1874-1880)
15. Julio Argentino Roca (1880-1886, 1898-1904)
16. Miguel Juárez Celman (1886-1890)
17. Carlos Pellegrini (1890-1892)
18. Luis Sáenz Peña (1892-1895)
19. José Evaristo Uriburu (1895-1898)
20. Manuel Quintana (1904-1906)
21. José Figueroa Alcorta (1906-1910)
22. Roque Sáenz Peña (1910-1914)
23. Victorino de la Plaza (1914-1916)
24. Hipólito Yrigoyen (1916-1922, 1928-1930)
25. Marcelo Torcuato de Alvear (1922-1928)
26. José Félix Uriburu (1930-1932)
27. Agustín Pedro Justo (1932-1938)
28. Roberto María Ortiz (1938-1942)
29. Ramón Castillo (1942-1943)
30. Arturo Rawson (1943)
31. Pedro Pablo Ramírez (1943-1944)
32. Edelmiro Julián Farrell (1944-1946)
33. Juan Domingo Perón (1946-1955, 1973-1974)
34. José Domingo Molina Gómez (1955)
35. Eduardo Lonardi (1955)
36. Pedro Eugenio Aramburu (1955-1958)
37. Arturo Frondizi (1958-1962)
38. José Maria Guido (1962-1963)
39. Arturo Umberto Illia (1963-1966)
40. Juan Carlos Onganía (1966-1970)
41. Roberto Levingston (1970-1971)
42. Alejandro Lanusse (1971-1973)
43. Héctor José Campora (1973)
44. Raúl Alberto Lastiri (1973)
45. Isabel Perón (1974-1976)
46. Jorge Rafael Videla (1976-1980)
47. Roberto Eduardo Viola (1980-1981)
48. Leopoldo Galtieri (1981-1982)
49. Reynaldo Bignone (1982-1983)
50. Raúl Alfonsín (1983-1989)
51. Carlos Menem (1989-1999)
52. Fernando de la Rúa (1999-2001)
53. Adolfo Rodríguez Saá (2001)
54. Eduardo Duhalde (2002-2003)
55. Néstor Kirchner (2003-2007)
56. Cristina Fernández de Kirchner (2007-…)

ResultsSad
Round one: Videla 7, J.F. Uriburu 4, Viola 2, Aramburu 1, Rosas 1, Menem 1
Round two: Aramburu 4, Rosas 4, Viola 2, Ongania 1, Roca 1
Round three: Roca 3, Viola 3, Ongania 2, Lavalle 2, Sarmiento 1, Mitre 1, Galtieri 1, Bignone 1
Round four: Ongania 5, Lavalle 2 (2 in previous rounds), Isabel Peron 2 (0 in previous rounds), Galtieri 1, Sarmiento 1, Urquiza 1
Round five: Isabel Peron 5, Ramirez 3, Galtieri 1, Sarmiento 1
Round six: Galtieri 4, Farrell 3, Sarmiento 1, Urquiza 1, Guido 1, Lanusse 1, Levingston 1
Round seven: Lanusse 5, Levingston 5, Urquiza 2, Sarmiento 1, Guido 1
Round eight: Molina Gomez 5, Guido 2 (2 in previous rounds), Rawson 2 (0 in previous rounds), Justo 2 (0 in previous rounds), Urquiza 1
Round nine: Rawson 5, Justo 5, Urquiza 1, Pedernera 1
Round ten: Urquiza 5, Lastiri 4, Pedernera 2, Lonardi 1
Round eleven: Bignone 4, Pedernera 3 (3 in previous rounds), Lonardi 3 (1 in previous rounds), Juarez Celman 1, Quintana 1
Round twelve: Juarez Celman 5, Lonardi 4, Quintana 1, Campora 1, Castillo 1
Round thirteen: Campora 4, Quintana 3, Castillo 1, C. Kirchner 1, Menem 1
Round fourteen: J.E. Uriburu 4, Balcarce 2 (0 in previous rounds+Caudillo's decision), Figueroa Alcorta 2 (0 in previous rounds), Castillo 1, Menem 1, Torcuato de Alvear 1, Lopez y Planes 1
Round fifteen: Figueroa Alcorta 4, Lopez y Planes 4, Castillo 2, Menem 1, Maza 1
Round sixteen: Maza 5, Castillo 2 (5 in previous rounds), Torcuato de Alvear 2 (1 in previous rounds), Rodriguez Saa 1
Round seventeen: Rodriguez Saa 3, de la Rua 3, Torcuato de Alvear 1, Menem 1, Pellegrini 1, Dorrego 1
Round eighteen: Luis Saenz Pena 3, Dorrego 3, Viamonte 2, Pellegrini 1, Derqui 1
Round nineteen: Viamonte 5, Pellegrini 4, Menem 3
Round twenty: C. Kirchner 5, Menem 4, Derqui 2, Torcuato de Alvear 1
Round twenty-one: Derqui 6, Torcuato de Alvear 3, Mitre 1, Avellaneda 1, Duhalde 1
Round twenty-two: de la Plaza 3, Mitre 2 (2 in previous rounds), Avellaneda 2 (1 in previous rounds), Duhalde 2 (1 in previous rounds), N. Kirchner 2 (0 in previous rounds), R. Saenz Pena 1
Round twenty-three: Avellaneda 6, N. Kirchner 3, R. Saenz Pena 2, J. Peron 1
Round twenty-four: Roque Saenz Pena 2 (3 in previous rounds), J. Peron 2 (1 in previous rounds), Rivadavia 2 (0 in previous rounds)
Round twenty-five: Rivadavia 4, J. Peron 2
Round twenty-six: Ortiz 4, J. Peron 2
Round twenty-seven: Duhalde 5, J. Peron 3
Round twenty-eight: J. Peron 4, Sarmiento 3
Round twenty-nine: Yrigoyen 3, Sarmiento 2, Illia 1
Round thirty: Sarmiento 4, Illia 3

In each round, you vote for the presidents or head of state you want to eliminate.
In case of a tie, the president who has received the biggest total of votes in previous rounds is eliminated. In case of a new tie, I, Caudillo of this Survivor, will decide.
Each round is open for 24 hours+

ROUND THIRTY-ONE IS OPEN !
Vote away !

Beware ! Now you've got only 1 vote !
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« Reply #87 on: February 12, 2010, 04:58:26 AM »

I think Illia was personally cleaner than Frondizi.
Illia finished "well", contrary to Frondizi.
And by being moderate and more pragmatic, he has opposed to many stupid things. He probably made it possible for democracy to last a bit longer.
Historically, what were Frondizi's real results and effective legacy ?

Therefore, I vote for

Frondizi

Illia should make it to the final.
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« Reply #88 on: February 12, 2010, 10:44:14 AM »

Apart from the "Communist" survivors (Bulganin, Nagy), I "lose" every other one ! Wink
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« Reply #89 on: February 13, 2010, 06:18:20 AM »

I can embrace an impassioned plea, but my vote is reluctant.

Frondizi, and it's tied up Smiley

The problem is that with my tie-breaking rule, Illia is out... Sad

But I have one more possibility: let this open a little more and maybe Xahar or Kal will vote (even though I'm afraid Illia wouldn't be better)...

I'm very happy to agree with Edu on this: initially, I wanted Alfonsin (or Peron to be fun...) to win, but, quickly, I turned to Illia.

Let's wait a bit and come & vote guys !
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« Reply #90 on: February 14, 2010, 09:07:45 AM »

BUMP

Please read Edu's humble praise of Illia, who should be our survivor...
Wink
Tomorrow morning (French time), it will be too late...
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« Reply #91 on: February 15, 2010, 04:21:11 AM »



1. Bernardino Rivadavia (1826-1827)
2. Vicente López y Planes (1827)
3. Manuel Dorrego (1827-1828)
4. Juan Lavalle (1828-1829)
5. Juan José Viamonte (1829, 1833-1834)
6. Juan Manuel de Rosas (1829-1832, 1835-1852)
7. Juan Ramón Balcarce (1832-1833)
8. Manuel Vicente Maza (1834-1835)
9. Justo José de Urquiza (1852-1860)
10. Santiago Derqui (1860-1861)
11. Juan Esteban Pedernera (1861)
12. Bartolomé Mitre (1862-1868)
13. Domingo Faustino Sarmiento (1868-1874)
14. Nicolás Avellaneda (1874-1880)
15. Julio Argentino Roca (1880-1886, 1898-1904)
16. Miguel Juárez Celman (1886-1890)
17. Carlos Pellegrini (1890-1892)
18. Luis Sáenz Peña (1892-1895)
19. José Evaristo Uriburu (1895-1898)
20. Manuel Quintana (1904-1906)
21. José Figueroa Alcorta (1906-1910)
22. Roque Sáenz Peña (1910-1914)
23. Victorino de la Plaza (1914-1916)
24. Hipólito Yrigoyen (1916-1922, 1928-1930)
25. Marcelo Torcuato de Alvear (1922-1928)
26. José Félix Uriburu (1930-1932)
27. Agustín Pedro Justo (1932-1938)
28. Roberto María Ortiz (1938-1942)
29. Ramón Castillo (1942-1943)
30. Arturo Rawson (1943)
31. Pedro Pablo Ramírez (1943-1944)
32. Edelmiro Julián Farrell (1944-1946)
33. Juan Domingo Perón (1946-1955, 1973-1974)
34. José Domingo Molina Gómez (1955)
35. Eduardo Lonardi (1955)
36. Pedro Eugenio Aramburu (1955-1958)
37. Arturo Frondizi (1958-1962)
38. José Maria Guido (1962-1963)
39. Arturo Umberto Illia (1963-1966)
40. Juan Carlos Onganía (1966-1970)
41. Roberto Levingston (1970-1971)
42. Alejandro Lanusse (1971-1973)
43. Héctor José Campora (1973)
44. Raúl Alberto Lastiri (1973)
45. Isabel Perón (1974-1976)
46. Jorge Rafael Videla (1976-1980)
47. Roberto Eduardo Viola (1980-1981)
48. Leopoldo Galtieri (1981-1982)
49. Reynaldo Bignone (1982-1983)
50. Raúl Alfonsín (1983-1989)
51. Carlos Menem (1989-1999)
52. Fernando de la Rúa (1999-2001)
53. Adolfo Rodríguez Saá (2001)
54. Eduardo Duhalde (2002-2003)
55. Néstor Kirchner (2003-2007)
56. Cristina Fernández de Kirchner (2007-…)

ResultsSad
Round one: Videla 7, J.F. Uriburu 4, Viola 2, Aramburu 1, Rosas 1, Menem 1
Round two: Aramburu 4, Rosas 4, Viola 2, Ongania 1, Roca 1
Round three: Roca 3, Viola 3, Ongania 2, Lavalle 2, Sarmiento 1, Mitre 1, Galtieri 1, Bignone 1
Round four: Ongania 5, Lavalle 2 (2 in previous rounds), Isabel Peron 2 (0 in previous rounds), Galtieri 1, Sarmiento 1, Urquiza 1
Round five: Isabel Peron 5, Ramirez 3, Galtieri 1, Sarmiento 1
Round six: Galtieri 4, Farrell 3, Sarmiento 1, Urquiza 1, Guido 1, Lanusse 1, Levingston 1
Round seven: Lanusse 5, Levingston 5, Urquiza 2, Sarmiento 1, Guido 1
Round eight: Molina Gomez 5, Guido 2 (2 in previous rounds), Rawson 2 (0 in previous rounds), Justo 2 (0 in previous rounds), Urquiza 1
Round nine: Rawson 5, Justo 5, Urquiza 1, Pedernera 1
Round ten: Urquiza 5, Lastiri 4, Pedernera 2, Lonardi 1
Round eleven: Bignone 4, Pedernera 3 (3 in previous rounds), Lonardi 3 (1 in previous rounds), Juarez Celman 1, Quintana 1
Round twelve: Juarez Celman 5, Lonardi 4, Quintana 1, Campora 1, Castillo 1
Round thirteen: Campora 4, Quintana 3, Castillo 1, C. Kirchner 1, Menem 1
Round fourteen: J.E. Uriburu 4, Balcarce 2 (0 in previous rounds+Caudillo's decision), Figueroa Alcorta 2 (0 in previous rounds), Castillo 1, Menem 1, Torcuato de Alvear 1, Lopez y Planes 1
Round fifteen: Figueroa Alcorta 4, Lopez y Planes 4, Castillo 2, Menem 1, Maza 1
Round sixteen: Maza 5, Castillo 2 (5 in previous rounds), Torcuato de Alvear 2 (1 in previous rounds), Rodriguez Saa 1
Round seventeen: Rodriguez Saa 3, de la Rua 3, Torcuato de Alvear 1, Menem 1, Pellegrini 1, Dorrego 1
Round eighteen: Luis Saenz Pena 3, Dorrego 3, Viamonte 2, Pellegrini 1, Derqui 1
Round nineteen: Viamonte 5, Pellegrini 4, Menem 3
Round twenty: C. Kirchner 5, Menem 4, Derqui 2, Torcuato de Alvear 1
Round twenty-one: Derqui 6, Torcuato de Alvear 3, Mitre 1, Avellaneda 1, Duhalde 1
Round twenty-two: de la Plaza 3, Mitre 2 (2 in previous rounds), Avellaneda 2 (1 in previous rounds), Duhalde 2 (1 in previous rounds), N. Kirchner 2 (0 in previous rounds), R. Saenz Pena 1
Round twenty-three: Avellaneda 6, N. Kirchner 3, R. Saenz Pena 2, J. Peron 1
Round twenty-four: Roque Saenz Pena 2 (3 in previous rounds), J. Peron 2 (1 in previous rounds), Rivadavia 2 (0 in previous rounds)
Round twenty-five: Rivadavia 4, J. Peron 2
Round twenty-six: Ortiz 4, J. Peron 2
Round twenty-seven: Duhalde 5, J. Peron 3
Round twenty-eight: J. Peron 4, Sarmiento 3
Round twenty-nine: Yrigoyen 3, Sarmiento 2, Illia 1
Round thirty: Sarmiento 4, Illia 3
Round thirty-one: Illia 3 (4 in previous rounds), Frondizi 3 (0 in previous rounds)

In each round, you vote for the presidents or head of state you want to eliminate.
In case of a tie, the president who has received the biggest total of votes in previous rounds is eliminated. In case of a new tie, I, Caudillo of this Survivor, will decide.
Each round is open for 24 hours+

ROUND THIRTY-TWO IS OPEN !
Vote away !

Beware ! You vote for the president you want to ELIMINATE !
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« Reply #92 on: February 15, 2010, 04:26:36 AM »

Sad Sad Sad
He was a rather good man, I think.
Anyway, only our regular voters have voted and the rule was clear from the beginning. Despite letting this round open a bit more, Illia is out in a fair fight.

So let's turn to our finale. Without any surprise, I wish my other favourite to win, so

Eliminate Frondizi
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« Reply #93 on: February 15, 2010, 11:41:18 AM »

It seems better than I expected Wink
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« Reply #94 on: February 16, 2010, 03:57:55 AM »

Good heavens !

You can't do this, guys ?!?
A tie ?!?

Well, I don't even know what to do:
the rule is the rule, but still...
and if the tie is broken by a non-regular voter, that's not really fair either...

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« Reply #95 on: February 16, 2010, 04:22:47 AM »



1. Bernardino Rivadavia (1826-1827)
2. Vicente López y Planes (1827)
3. Manuel Dorrego (1827-1828)
4. Juan Lavalle (1828-1829)
5. Juan José Viamonte (1829, 1833-1834)
6. Juan Manuel de Rosas (1829-1832, 1835-1852)
7. Juan Ramón Balcarce (1832-1833)
8. Manuel Vicente Maza (1834-1835)
9. Justo José de Urquiza (1852-1860)
10. Santiago Derqui (1860-1861)
11. Juan Esteban Pedernera (1861)
12. Bartolomé Mitre (1862-1868)
13. Domingo Faustino Sarmiento (1868-1874)
14. Nicolás Avellaneda (1874-1880)
15. Julio Argentino Roca (1880-1886, 1898-1904)
16. Miguel Juárez Celman (1886-1890)
17. Carlos Pellegrini (1890-1892)
18. Luis Sáenz Peña (1892-1895)
19. José Evaristo Uriburu (1895-1898)
20. Manuel Quintana (1904-1906)
21. José Figueroa Alcorta (1906-1910)
22. Roque Sáenz Peña (1910-1914)
23. Victorino de la Plaza (1914-1916)
24. Hipólito Yrigoyen (1916-1922, 1928-1930)
25. Marcelo Torcuato de Alvear (1922-1928)
26. José Félix Uriburu (1930-1932)
27. Agustín Pedro Justo (1932-1938)
28. Roberto María Ortiz (1938-1942)
29. Ramón Castillo (1942-1943)
30. Arturo Rawson (1943)
31. Pedro Pablo Ramírez (1943-1944)
32. Edelmiro Julián Farrell (1944-1946)
33. Juan Domingo Perón (1946-1955, 1973-1974)
34. José Domingo Molina Gómez (1955)
35. Eduardo Lonardi (1955)
36. Pedro Eugenio Aramburu (1955-1958)
37. Arturo Frondizi (1958-1962)
38. José Maria Guido (1962-1963)
39. Arturo Umberto Illia (1963-1966)
40. Juan Carlos Onganía (1966-1970)
41. Roberto Levingston (1970-1971)
42. Alejandro Lanusse (1971-1973)
43. Héctor José Campora (1973)
44. Raúl Alberto Lastiri (1973)
45. Isabel Perón (1974-1976)
46. Jorge Rafael Videla (1976-1980)
47. Roberto Eduardo Viola (1980-1981)
48. Leopoldo Galtieri (1981-1982)
49. Reynaldo Bignone (1982-1983)
SURVIVOR50. Raúl Alfonsín (1983-1989)
SURVIVOR51. Carlos Menem (1989-1999)
52. Fernando de la Rúa (1999-2001)
53. Adolfo Rodríguez Saá (2001)
54. Eduardo Duhalde (2002-2003)
55. Néstor Kirchner (2003-2007)
56. Cristina Fernández de Kirchner (2007-…)

ResultsSad
Round one: Videla 7, J.F. Uriburu 4, Viola 2, Aramburu 1, Rosas 1, Menem 1
Round two: Aramburu 4, Rosas 4, Viola 2, Ongania 1, Roca 1
Round three: Roca 3, Viola 3, Ongania 2, Lavalle 2, Sarmiento 1, Mitre 1, Galtieri 1, Bignone 1
Round four: Ongania 5, Lavalle 2 (2 in previous rounds), Isabel Peron 2 (0 in previous rounds), Galtieri 1, Sarmiento 1, Urquiza 1
Round five: Isabel Peron 5, Ramirez 3, Galtieri 1, Sarmiento 1
Round six: Galtieri 4, Farrell 3, Sarmiento 1, Urquiza 1, Guido 1, Lanusse 1, Levingston 1
Round seven: Lanusse 5, Levingston 5, Urquiza 2, Sarmiento 1, Guido 1
Round eight: Molina Gomez 5, Guido 2 (2 in previous rounds), Rawson 2 (0 in previous rounds), Justo 2 (0 in previous rounds), Urquiza 1
Round nine: Rawson 5, Justo 5, Urquiza 1, Pedernera 1
Round ten: Urquiza 5, Lastiri 4, Pedernera 2, Lonardi 1
Round eleven: Bignone 4, Pedernera 3 (3 in previous rounds), Lonardi 3 (1 in previous rounds), Juarez Celman 1, Quintana 1
Round twelve: Juarez Celman 5, Lonardi 4, Quintana 1, Campora 1, Castillo 1
Round thirteen: Campora 4, Quintana 3, Castillo 1, C. Kirchner 1, Menem 1
Round fourteen: J.E. Uriburu 4, Balcarce 2 (0 in previous rounds+Caudillo's decision), Figueroa Alcorta 2 (0 in previous rounds), Castillo 1, Menem 1, Torcuato de Alvear 1, Lopez y Planes 1
Round fifteen: Figueroa Alcorta 4, Lopez y Planes 4, Castillo 2, Menem 1, Maza 1
Round sixteen: Maza 5, Castillo 2 (5 in previous rounds), Torcuato de Alvear 2 (1 in previous rounds), Rodriguez Saa 1
Round seventeen: Rodriguez Saa 3, de la Rua 3, Torcuato de Alvear 1, Menem 1, Pellegrini 1, Dorrego 1
Round eighteen: Luis Saenz Pena 3, Dorrego 3, Viamonte 2, Pellegrini 1, Derqui 1
Round nineteen: Viamonte 5, Pellegrini 4, Menem 3
Round twenty: C. Kirchner 5, Menem 4, Derqui 2, Torcuato de Alvear 1
Round twenty-one: Derqui 6, Torcuato de Alvear 3, Mitre 1, Avellaneda 1, Duhalde 1
Round twenty-two: de la Plaza 3, Mitre 2 (2 in previous rounds), Avellaneda 2 (1 in previous rounds), Duhalde 2 (1 in previous rounds), N. Kirchner 2 (0 in previous rounds), R. Saenz Pena 1
Round twenty-three: Avellaneda 6, N. Kirchner 3, R. Saenz Pena 2, J. Peron 1
Round twenty-four: Roque Saenz Pena 2 (3 in previous rounds), J. Peron 2 (1 in previous rounds), Rivadavia 2 (0 in previous rounds)
Round twenty-five: Rivadavia 4, J. Peron 2
Round twenty-six: Ortiz 4, J. Peron 2
Round twenty-seven: Duhalde 5, J. Peron 3
Round twenty-eight: J. Peron 4, Sarmiento 3
Round twenty-nine: Yrigoyen 3, Sarmiento 2, Illia 1
Round thirty: Sarmiento 4, Illia 3
Round thirty-one: Illia 3 (4 in previous rounds), Frondizi 3 (0 in previous rounds)
Round thirty-two: Frondizi 3 (3 in previous rounds), Alfonsin 3 (0 in previous rounds)

Hail for the Survivor !


Power is a heavy task...

Eventually, Frondizi made it to the final round after a tie, but he lost after a tie: maybe that's a fair result among the top 3, who weren't so far away one from another.

Big thanks to our 7 regular voters (I don't forget PiT) and to Edu.
It was a fine and respectful survivor, with mostly fair and "clever" results.
I enjoyed it a lot.
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« Reply #96 on: February 17, 2010, 10:30:58 AM »

Not my favorite, but the guy who won was decent enough Wink

Thanks fab for running this survivor, i enjoyed it a lot and it gave me the chance to speak about something i know a bit about. You did a great job and thanks for accepting my annoying dissapearings.



You're welcome.
Thanks for your comments and "enlightenment" on Argentina's presidents.
This survivor hasn't reached a very big turnout, but was followed by very regular voters and hasn't been disturbed by partisan votes. That's really fine.

If you want to manage one on Mexican presidents, for example (see the stickied topic of this board...), do not hesitate Grin
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