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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« on: January 30, 2012, 11:07:33 PM »

Virginia's flirtation with the Democratic party looks like a one night stand. Since then the GOP has established a position of dominance. Senate Democrats' aggregate 56% in Fairfax loses the state.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2012, 04:17:03 PM »

Using state senate races to measure presidential ones is not a good measure of anything, since off-year numbers and lower level office numbers are not the same as presidential numbers. And those numbers are still much lower than what Republicans were getting in past cycles. But, Republicans are free to believe that Gingrich or Romney will win in a landslide here if it makes them feel better.

Actually, Virginia Senate Democrats performed about 4-5 points better in 2007 than they did in 2011, precinct by precinct. They of course did gerrymander the districts.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2012, 04:22:17 PM »

Virginia's flirtation with the Democratic party looks like a one night stand. Since then the GOP has established a position of dominance. Senate Democrats' aggregate 56% in Fairfax loses the state.

Yeah, Obama leading by 1 against Obama and 11 against Newt is a real danger sign for the Democrats! And of course 56% in Fairfax won't cut it. Though what was the overall margin in the state? I would think a performance like that in Fairfax would lead to a 3-4 point loss in the state overall?

Senate Democrats did not field candidates in most State Senate districts. Given that, the fact that the GOP won the overall 2011 vote by landslide margins is a bit misleading.

McDonnell of course won Fairfax County in 2009 so certainly the Democrats improved their position from there.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2012, 11:24:31 PM »

Virginia's flirtation with the Democratic party looks like a one night stand. Since then the GOP has established a position of dominance. Senate Democrats' aggregate 56% in Fairfax loses the state.

It is far too early to tell that the Senate wins of Kaine in 2006 and Warner in 2008 or the Presidential win of Barack Obama in Virginia are 'one-night-stands'. Webb got a tough win against what seemed an entrenched opponent, Warner utterly crushed  his Senate opponent, and the Obama win was not really close.

Virginia used to be a safe R state for most offices, basically switching Parties for Governor. The last time that Virginia had voted for the Democratic nominee for President in a close election was 1948. How R was it? LBJ may have won it, but it was his 10th-worst state or 41st best. It was the only former Confederate State to not vote for Jimmy Carter in 1976. Bill Clinton never won it despite winning 370 and 379 electoral votes. Dubya won it twice by 8%.

Something has changed: Virginia has practically become a Northern state in its voting patterns.  As some put it, it has "seceded from the South". As it has become more of a Northern state by attracting Yankees from the Northeast and Midwest it has followed the tendency away from the GOP.

The tendency in recent weeks has been for President Obama to gain in Virginia. George Allen isn't doing well in an effort to win an open seat for Senate. About the only good news for Republicans in Virginia is that the Governor gets good approval ratings. That's because he stays away from the abrasive styles of the likes of Brewer, Kasich, Walker, Scott, and Snyder -- and he is far more honest than Deal and brighter than Perry.   

   

George Allen is doing just fine. And while he did lose in 2006 due to a macaca moment, the GOP still held the 2nd, 5th, and 11th districts in that election.

The rest of the statement is quite funny. Virginia has a Republican trifecta. Hardly the hallmark of a 'northern' state.
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