FL/OH/PA/NC-Quinnipiac: Tied in FL, Trump lead in OH, Clinton lead in PA/NC (user search)
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Wiz in Wis
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« on: September 08, 2016, 01:41:09 PM »

Seems in line with Clinton +3/4 nationally.
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2016, 01:41:57 PM »

Awesome NC numbers, PA and FL are par for the course, OH is unfortunate. Looks like Clinton should go with the ACC route.

OH is still quite close, no reason to re-adjust strategy, especially given division in ground games.
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2016, 02:05:00 PM »

Clinton is not going to win NC. If Obama couldn't do it again in 2012, it's not happening.

What does his narrow loss in 2012 have to do with this? You realize the current trends in North Carolina actually favor Democrats, right? By all measure, the NC electorate will actually be slightly more favorable to Democrats this year than in 2012, due to demographic changes alone.

Just curious what exactly your justification is for your position. North Carolina is becoming more competitive, not less, and Trump is clearly not a shoe-in for that state based on the polls we have been seeing.

I agree with those statements about changing demographics. My justification for my position is that Hillary Clinton is not Obama and will not drive turn out as effectively in AA communities (Raleigh, Charlotte). Trump will gain more support among blacks than Romney did, simply because there is not an AA present on the ticket.

A) No reason to assume African American turnout will drop all that much.
B) White college voters are shifting towards Clinton, Trump already maxed out here with Romneys numbers among non-college whites
C) Ground game, ground game, ground game
4) HB2 and the general state of the NC GOP.
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