Justice Dept. sides with baker who refused to serve gay couple

[Santander]

It's nice to see Trump stand up for an issue I agree with him on. While we need additional federal legislation for LGBT employment and housing protection, when it comes to a service directly related to a wedding, religious freedom must be protected. Kasich said in the primary debates (paraphrasing): "If someone doesn't want to photograph your wedding, find another photographer. Don't go to Court." The same principle applies to wedding cakes.

No, what he actually said was, "if you're in the business of conducting commerce, conduct commerce," and to say a prayer for them on their way out if you don't agree with their lifestyle.

[Santander]

As someone whose parents are devout Christians and bakery owners, we try to treat all customers with the utmost respect, and would never refuse service based on a couple's profile.

My parents and I recognize that refusing service would do nothing but make a political statement, show disregard for humanity, and display moral superiority by casting the first stone.

One can oppose same sex marriage by refusing to attend their wedding, not by flaunting the almighty attitude of "I refuse to make a cake, which I've been making for 30 years in the name of Christ"

Maybe we're just weird Christians.

No, you sound like good Christians, not weird Christians.

[Santander]

This is why Evangelicals largely voted for Trump.  Not because the like him but because he doesn't think that they are the equivalent of the KKK.

No one is saying "they are equivalent to the KKK."
The KKK is pure hate. The Christian religion (all faiths) have some flaws, but I do believe that they at least try to preach some basic standards of decency, morals and love.

It is becoming increasingly popular on the left to say that Christianity is all about hate of non-Christians.

[Santander]

We need to pick up the ivory trade.

[Santander]

I am tempted to believe that evangelical Christians are gullible, and I associate gullibility with a proclivity to fall for demagogues. EWTN doesn't push a wealth cult; for good reason there are no Episcopal televangelists.

Well, you kind of have to believe in God to evangelize.

[Santander]

Your disagreement with the Court's legal reasoning on the Constitutional issues in Obergfell is an issue for a separate thread. You asked how church teachings against homosexuality represent a danger to society. The harm to society occurs when those groups demand that their religious beliefs and prejudices be codified into law to be imposed on all. You tried to analogize this bigotry to other groups who do not behave that way.

The bakers are trying to impose their views on anyone, they just want to be left alone.

While, as a Christian, I sympathize with your concerns, this argument is like saying that segregationists just wanted to be left alone.

[Santander]

If a person's religious belief that gay sex is a sin is bigotry, is that also true for religious beliefs that drinking alcohol is bigotry?

Social liberalism is getting more and more extreme.

Well, if gay marriages are anything like straight marriages, we should be getting them all married as quickly as possible to stop their sinning.

[Santander]

LOL.
One is asking for a cake for love, the other for hate.
Are you that daft ?

Some people choose a gay lifestyle to troll or to rebel against their parents.

[Santander]

Don't be ridiculous. There was no such thing as racism until Trump started running for President.