HB 1309: Cruel And Unusual Punishments Are Bad Act (Final Vote) (user search)
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Author Topic: HB 1309: Cruel And Unusual Punishments Are Bad Act (Final Vote)  (Read 895 times)
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« on: August 19, 2018, 06:21:22 PM »

Might as well put me down for this too Tongue
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2018, 11:17:48 PM »

Torture is only okay if I do it.
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2018, 07:20:04 AM »

how are these not already prohibited? Did they slip through the cracks or something?

From the Senate debate:

This bill amplifies the IRL 8th Amendment (whatever number equivalent in Atlasia) by specifically enumerating certain types of illegal torture. The bill contains language to ensure that this is not presented as an exhaustive list and that judicial relief can still be available for such unlisted torture methods via the constitutional ban on cruel and unusual punishment.
Are any of these currently in use or upheld by legal precedent?
There really arent cases on a lot of these. Some punishments like castration and purposeful scaring were common in the US when the 8th Amendment was ratified, as was gibbeting, branding, and whipping. Coerced sterilization and abortion happened in prisons in the 20th century, as did lobotomies. Many of these could become issues  with an evil government.
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2018, 08:14:12 PM »

Assuming no one else has anything to add, I'll go ahead and motion for a final vote.
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2018, 09:06:00 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2018, 09:09:59 PM »

Also, bill passes 7-0-0-2
Aye: 7 (weatherboy, Pericles, OSR, Lechasseur, OneJ, Rfayette, fhtagn)
Nay: 0
Abstain: 0
Didn't vote: 2 (Peebs, Razze)
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