Indictment-O-Rama Megathread: Mueller indicts 13 Russians

[Pericles]

And you people still think Trump was the lesser evil and Hillary Clinton was worse?! PATHETIC!

[Inmate Trump]

And you people still think Trump was the lesser evil and Hillary Clinton was worse?! PATHETIC!

But Benghazi and Pizzagate and Seth Rich and e-mails and other fake scandals!

[The Mikado]

Yeah, if anything, he would've worn a wire after July. But how much access did he have to the White House in the past 5 months? Not like this administration keeps detailed record logs.

Yeah, him wearing a wire July-October of this year makes sense. Not before.

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

Yeah, if anything, he would've worn a wire after July. But how much access did he have to the White House in the past 5 months? Not like this administration keeps detailed record logs.

Yeah, him wearing a wire July-October of this year makes sense. Not before.

Manafort was being wiretapped since 2014, which has the potential to be huge.

[Doimper]

Yeah, if anything, he would've worn a wire after July. But how much access did he have to the White House in the past 5 months? Not like this administration keeps detailed record logs.

Yeah, him wearing a wire July-October of this year makes sense. Not before.

Manafort was being wiretapped since 2014, which has the potential to be huge.

I can't get over how gross Trump's hair looks in your sig.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

I must say it's entertaining watching Hannity going bat-sh**t insane over these indictments.

[GeorgiaModerate]

I must say it's entertaining watching Hannity going bat-sh**t insane over these indictments.

"going" ?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

I must say it's entertaining watching Hannity going bat-sh**t insane over these indictments.

You watch Hannity?  MSNBC is

[Pericles]

Yeah, if anything, he would've worn a wire after July. But how much access did he have to the White House in the past 5 months? Not like this administration keeps detailed record logs.

Yeah, him wearing a wire July-October of this year makes sense. Not before.

Manafort was being wiretapped since 2014, which has the potential to be huge.

I can't get over how gross Trump's hair looks in your sig.

Donald Trump is a gross human being.

[SoLongAtlas]

CNN now reporting that Sessions's testimony is now under scrutiny. Good.

[Middle-aged Europe]

CNN now reporting that Sessions's testimony is now under scrutiny. Good.

Perjury?

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

CNN now reporting that Sessions's testimony is now under scrutiny. Good.

Perjury?

The thing is that perjury is a pretty hard charge to prove, if I'm not mistaken.

[GeorgiaModerate]

CNN now reporting that Sessions's testimony is now under scrutiny. Good.

Perjury?

The thing is that perjury is a pretty hard charge to prove, if I'm not mistaken.

ISTR a sitting President who was impeached for it (though not convicted).

[Middle-aged Europe]

New poll is out!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/post-abc-poll-most-americans-approve-of-trump-russia-probe-and-nearly-half-think-trump-committed-a-crime/2017/11/02/9ccb3ccc-bfd6-11e7-97d9-bdab5a0ab381_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_no-name%3Apage%2Fbreaking-news-bar&tid=a_breakingnews&utm_term=.9a60a38c6c1e



Do you think it's likely or unlikely that Trump himself committed a crime in connection with possible Russian attempts to influence the election?

Likely 49%
Unlikely 44%

Democrats only

Likely 74%
Unlikely 18%

Independents only

Likely 50%
Unlikely 42%

Republicans only

Likely 14%
Unlikely 82%


Do you think these cases (are limited just to Manafort, his associate and Papadopoulos) or do you think they (represent broader wrongdoing by people involved in Trump’s presidential campaign)?

Limited to Manafort and Papadopoulos 28%
Represents broader wrongdoing 53%

Democrats only

Limited to Manafort and Papadopoulos 13%
Represents broader wrongdoing 77%

Independents only

Limited to Manafort and Papadopoulos 27%
Represents broader wrongdoing 54%

Republicans only

Limited to Manafort and Papadopoulos 46%
Represents broader wrongdoing 30%

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

If and when Trump does end up getting charged for money laundering alongside his long time associates, his decision to not seperate himself from his business interests is going to look very foolish when the feds start seizing them.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

CNN now reporting that Sessions's testimony is now under scrutiny. Good.

Perjury?

The thing is that perjury is a pretty hard charge to prove, if I'm not mistaken.

ISTR a sitting President who was impeached for it (though not convicted).

And he was not convicted despite a Republican Senate (he obviously should've been though).  Also there was a much stronger case against Bill Clinton than against Sessions, if I'm not mistaken.  You'd have to prove Sessions actually lied as opposed to simply forgetting, being evasive, omitting something, etc.  Based solely on what we know right now, I definitely wouldn't indict Sessions for perjury/lying to Congress if I were Mueller although who knows what he knows that we don't.

[Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it.]

This has been on my mind for the past few days....what if Donald himself is in the next round of indictments? What happens?

[Gass3268]

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Sessions is probably getting indicted

[Hindsight was 2020]

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Sessions is probably getting indicted

Well I do declare

[IceSpear]

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Sessions is probably getting indicted

This would be orgasmic.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

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Sessions is probably getting indicted

Another Friday night resignation?

[Gass3268]

My lord, Carter Page:

[GeorgiaModerate]

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[Virginiá]

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Sessions is probably getting indicted

This would be orgasmic.

I don't know. Honestly, it might be best if Mueller saved that for last. Sessions being Attorney General is what is keeping Rod Rosenstein as acting AG in regards to oversight of the special counsel investigation. Trump actually wants Sessions out, because then he could fill that office with a lackey who then might clamp down on the investigation. He doesn't have to fire Mueller, but he could say no to certain indictments, maybe restrict funding, and god knows what else. That is a much more low-key way to hinder the investigation.

In fact, it reminds me of Lt. Marimow from The Wire, dubbed "the unit killer," who was brought in to essentially "supervise" the unit into a quiet extinction on account of them investigating politicians:

http://thewire.wikia.com/wiki/Charles_Marimow

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Although, I guess given how high-profile Mueller's investigation is, a new AG might not be able to get away with that. It might even fall into obstruction if a link to Trump can be made.

[TheSaint250]

The first three indictments really got the ball rolling.

Glad to see Mueller’s investigation has been successful.