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« Reply #125 on: June 10, 2007, 07:59:30 AM »

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« Reply #126 on: June 10, 2007, 12:55:34 PM »

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« Reply #127 on: June 10, 2007, 03:03:11 PM »
« Edited: June 10, 2007, 04:01:12 PM by Senator Colin Wixted »

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« Reply #128 on: June 10, 2007, 05:19:32 PM »

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« Reply #129 on: June 11, 2007, 12:06:25 AM »

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« Reply #130 on: June 12, 2007, 10:19:05 PM »

The 4th Ballot is now concluded.
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« Reply #131 on: June 24, 2007, 10:41:59 PM »

*Again, Black Smoke is seen rising*

Reporter:  And we go live again to the Vatican where we see that the Cardinals have once again failed to come to a concensus.  Not much to say at this point, but we will keep watching.

And now back to our studio for a look at Paris Hilton and her on-going ordeal in prison.

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« Reply #132 on: June 24, 2007, 10:43:02 PM »
« Edited: June 25, 2007, 12:03:32 AM by Pierre Cardinal LaCroix »

 The Results of the 4th Ballot are as follows

Cheng - 13 (Cheng, Shah, Wildauer, Sherer, Ramos, Schuler, Alexandre, Balla, Garcia, Zambrano, Pinera, de Arroyo, Tyler)

Lumbayo - 12 (Adofo, Santiago, Reyes, Lopez, Ramirez, de Lugo, Rias, Kobe, Sauda, Chike, Zari, Michiba)

Cruijff - 11 (Cruijff, McCannon, Romano, Bertone, Rudo, O'Hara, Montini, Soto, Boulanger, Braschi, Sanchez)

Jergovic - 10 (Jergovic, Szklar, Ganganelli, Schontag, Howard, Papp, Timochenko, Mineric, Adamkusm, Legrand)

von Frick -10 (von Frick, de Palma, Hernandez, Huber, Robidzer, Herrera, Pascal, Purnomo, Ho, Kulop)

Antonelli - 9 (Antonelli, Sepe, Rezzonico, Lambertini, Altieri, Errigo, Caprelli, Gardocki, Latello)

Hume - 9 (Hume, Yates, Bassman, Cruz, Gabler, Stojeck, M'Fuma, Lynch)

Ribeiro - 6 (Ribeiro, Tagola, Diaz, de Silva, Alves, Majboo)

Miller - 5 (Miller, MacMillian, Kelley, Fitzgibbon, Gayan)

de Andrade - 1 (Medina)

Tagola - 1 (Lumbayo)



Cheng - 13
Lumbayo - 12
Cruijff - 11
Jergovic - 10
von Frick - 10
Antonelli - 9
Hume - 9
Ribeiro - 6
Miller - 5
de Andrade - 1
Tagola - 1



   
Hume ---->   Hume
Ribeiro ---->   Ribeiro
Cheng ---->   Cheng
von Frick ---->   Ribeiro ----> von Frick
Miller ---->   Miller
Jergovic ---->   Jergovic
Antonelli ---->   Antonelli
Cruijff ---->   Cruijiff
de Palma ---->     de Palma ----> von Frick
Lumbayo ---->   Santiago ----> Tagola



Curia   

McCannon ---->   Cruijff
Romano ---->   Cruijff
Hernandez ---->   von Frick
Sepe ---->   Antonelli
Bertone ---->   Cruijff
Adofo ---->   Lumbayo
Shah ---->   Cheng
Wildauer ---->   Cheng


Other Key Cardinals
   
Santiago ---->   Lumbayo
O'Hara ---->   Cruijff
Sherer ---->   Cheng
Tagola ---->   Ribeiro
Medina ---->   de Andrade
Bassman    ---->     Hume
Ramos ---->   Cheng
Montini ---->   Crujiff
Szklar ---->   Jergovic
Rudo ---->   Cruijff


Europeans   

Rezzonico    ----> Antonelli
Lambertini ---->   Antonelli
Altieri ---->   Antonelli
Ganganelli ---->   Jergovic
Braschi ---->   Cruijff
Errigo ---->   Antonelli
Caprelli ---->   Antonelli
Huber ---->   von Frick
Robidzer ---->   von Frick
Schontag ---->   Jergovic
Schuler ---->   Cheng
Reyes ---->   Lumbayo
Diaz ---->                   Ribeiro
Soto ---->                  Cruijff
Cruz ---->                  Hume
Herrera ---->   von Frick
Pascal ---->   von Frick
Boulanger ---->   Cruijff
Alexandre    ---->        Cheng
Gardocki    ---->         Antonelli
Howard ---->   Jergovic
MacMillian ---->   Miller
Papp ---->   Jergovic
Balla ---->    Cheng
Timochenko ---->   Jergovic
Mineric ---->   Jergovic
Adamkus ---->   Jergovic
Kelley ---->   Miller


North America
   
Fitzgibbon ---->   Hume ----> Miller
Latello ---->   Antonelli
Gabler ---->   Hume
Sanchez ---->   Cruijff
Stojeck ---->   Hume
Legrand ---->   Antonelli ----> Jergovic


Latin America   

da Silva ---->   Ribeiro
Alves ---->   RIbeiro
Lopez ---->   Lumbayo
Garcia ---->   Cheng
Zambrano ---->   Cheng
Ramirez ---->   Lumbayo
Pinera ---->   Cheng
de Arroyo    ---->        Cheng
de Lugo ---->   Lumbayo
Rias ---->                   Lumbayo


Africa   

Tyler ---->                   Cheng
Kobe ---->   Lumbayo
Sauda ---->   Lumbayo
Chike ---->   Lumbayo
M'Fuma ---->   Hume
Zari ---->                   Lumbayo


Asia   

Gayan ---->              Singh ----> Miller
Majboo ---->   Ribeiro
Michiba ---->   Lumbayo
Purnomo ---->   von Frick
Ho ---->                   von Frick
Kulop ---->   von Frick
Lynch ---->   Hume



The Results for the 4th Ballot are inconclusive.

I see, my brothers, that we have reached a bit of a dead lock.  I am not against this, in fact, I encourage it, because I hope it will force each of you to think a little harder about the future of the Faith.  Let us now go and eat God's bounty.

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« Reply #133 on: June 26, 2007, 04:29:51 PM »

Does anyone have anything to say?
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« Reply #134 on: June 26, 2007, 07:24:29 PM »

Cardinal LaCroix, if I may, I have just a few words...

Brothers,

I have formed the view that there is a need for the convokation of a new ecclesiastical council. The world today is changing at a rate faster than ever before. Our church has also changed - our potential reach is greater than it has ever been. It is clear to me, and indeed evidenced in part by the differences of opinion within this very conclave, that a new council could prove very beneficial in ensuring we speak with one voice, united in our faith and united on what path our Church should follow.

There are many issues which I believe that we ought to clarify our position on for all to see clearly where we stand, issues which were not and indeed could not have been considered at previous convokations.

I would ask my Brothers, are you supportive of the idea that it is now time for a new council to convene?
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« Reply #135 on: June 26, 2007, 08:41:33 PM »

Cardinal von Frick rises.

Yes, I would strongly support a council including all the Bishops of the Church.    I have spoken earlier about the the importance of the sacraments, including the greater expansion of the sacraments.  For this, we will to consult the Church, through its representatives, the Bishops, across the world.

Anything other than the status quo will require long and careful consultation.

I am mindful that every Cardinal in this room is a Bishop and that the next pope will be Bishop of Rome.
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« Reply #136 on: June 27, 2007, 03:29:00 PM »

Yes, I strongly support a new council to settle many of the debates which have plagued our Holy Church. I think Vatican II set an excellent example of conflict resolution and theological debate, and that a repetition of such an endeavor would be the best way to build consensus and present a unified Church for the 21st century. It is better to consult with the whole Church to avoid divisions and schisms, recognizing that the Holy Spirit speaks through many with one voice.
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« Reply #137 on: July 01, 2007, 08:38:27 PM »

This is from Cardinal Lumbayo through PM:


Brother Cardinals,
I feel that there is increasing tension within this Conclave and I think it is time to recall who we are and why we are here. I said in my opening speech that we must try and look past sectional conflicts and come together as Christians and as members of this Church. I have always tried to live by the principle of making friends instead of attracting enemies. I am happy to say that I have managed to live up to this principle during this Conclave. Cardinal Santiago and myself have not always been on the best of terms, but today I am proud to call him my friend. I hope that others will follow our example so that we can emerge from this Conclave more unified instead of more divided. I cannot bear to think of the consequences otherwise.
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« Reply #138 on: July 02, 2007, 02:52:05 AM »

In a word: yes.

I don't believe much more must be said than what our brother Cardinal Cruijff has already said, so I will spare you what you have come to expect from me.  He is absolutely correct.

(Jergović smiles and sits back down)
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« Reply #139 on: July 02, 2007, 05:41:23 AM »

I too must concur with Cardinal Cruijiff. There is need for the Church to pose itself so as to be able to take on a fast-changing world in the right way. However, I'd also like to see this as an excellent opportunity.
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« Reply #140 on: July 02, 2007, 09:56:21 PM »

And that concludes this discussion period.  We will now proceed with the 5th Ballot.
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« Reply #141 on: July 03, 2007, 05:39:47 AM »

Tagola, again.
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« Reply #142 on: July 03, 2007, 08:10:35 AM »

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« Reply #143 on: July 03, 2007, 10:34:02 AM »

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« Reply #144 on: July 03, 2007, 11:38:13 AM »

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« Reply #145 on: July 03, 2007, 01:16:31 PM »

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« Reply #146 on: July 03, 2007, 01:19:16 PM »

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« Reply #147 on: July 03, 2007, 07:02:30 PM »

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« Reply #148 on: July 03, 2007, 08:37:28 PM »

Cheng

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« Reply #149 on: July 04, 2007, 03:04:15 PM »

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