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« on: April 05, 2012, 09:18:29 PM »

This better not become a "BRTD posts opebo quotes all day" thread.
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realisticidealist
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2012, 08:35:57 PM »

There's really no point in picking on DWTL now, especially for things he said five years ago, but I did find the "we would let people know if you join another religion you go to hell" bit quite amusing since that's not even Catholic teaching (even if the statement is taken literally and not defining "another religion" as "another Christian denomination" which is what I think he meant.)

Yeah, Catholics have a pretty open door policy on heaven. You have to really go out of your way to become "hellbound" unlike some (though certainly not all) Protestant churches.
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2012, 08:34:33 PM »

Sorry, realisticidealist, you know I love you, but this is a very good post and I agree with it in full:

There are a lot of things that have gone wrong with how we treat marriage in this country, but letting gays marry I think is the least of them. I would be more comfortable with it if gay marriage supporters were half as concerned about the institution of marriage itself as they were about using the issue as a tool to route out "bigots" and feel superior about themselves. Not all are that way of course, but if often seems like it. It just seems like so many liberals care so much about gay marriage on one hand, but simultaneous talk out of the other side of their mouth about how marriage is an archaic institution that should be done away with and about how progressive they are for opposing this anachronistic holdover. You can't have it both ways.

I just don't understand what is really mutually exclusive about thinking marriage is a decayed institution while also supporting legalizing gay marriage. Of course, I don't personally think marriage is an archaic institution that should be tossed away and listening to that argument gets me all testy, but you can absolutely think it's a decaying institution while also thinking there's no reason not to legalize gay marriage.

I'm just not sure where this hostility you have for this issue comes from. You act like you support it, but you hate that you have absolutely no choice but to support it; like you're angry that other people force you to admit you're wrong about something. It's weird from someone usually so reasonable and wonky about everything.

I at least tried to answer it as honestly as possible. Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2013, 09:54:08 PM »

It is either a vast left-wing conspiracy that, whenever "State representative/senator did ____, said ___" appears in the news for something offensive or stupid, they are almost invariably Republican, or that party is just rotten to the core. I tend to think the latter.

Confirmation bias (plus some availability bias) much?
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