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« on: June 10, 2019, 01:20:53 PM »

Someone 22 now was born in 1997, which is early Gen Z by most definitions, the latest I've seen Millennial births set is 1998, so at least all freshmen are. Yet college towns and campus precincts did not have any Republican trend in 2018 (and remember trend is compared to the national swing)...so what gives?

I was always pretty skeptical of the notion that today's college students are talking about how much they love Ben Shapiro in between keg stands.
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2019, 01:56:23 PM »

They're not - no generation will ever be Republican ever, ever again.

No one's saying that.

Especially since generational thresholds are totally arbitrary and it's pretty absurd to expect voting patterns to jump drastically from Millennials in just a few years. This did not happen with Generation X, the youngest Gen Xers are also pretty Democratic.
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2019, 02:02:32 PM »

Weren’t Millennials supposed to be Evangelical right wingers?
I do vaguely recall that talking point now. It was basically based on drawing trends from data points and assuming those trends would continue indefinitely.

Of course this fallacy shows up here a lot too.
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2019, 11:30:20 AM »

The fact you had to cite examples ranging from 6 months to 3 years prior to the present day reveals the fact that the point of this thread was not to provoke any kind of decent discussion, but to simply fill this subforum with another excuse for low effort posting, circlejerking and nonsensical one-dimensional hot takes.

You really think everyone's opinions change that often? I'm sure if I posted one from a week ago, you'd say "The fact that you had to cite examples ranging from 1 week ago to...."

At any rate, the point of my post was to point out that yes, despite you not seeing it with your own eyes, it does in fact exist.

Now, please, post more about how this board is trash. Don't forget to use the term "circlejerk" again. It's the only way to convey this opinion!

"B-but I still found a poster!!!"
The lengths at which you go to defend this thread is hilariously pathetic. If you wish to delve into the archives of Atlas and find an example from a week ago of a poster heralding Generation Z as the oncoming tide of conservatism for me, then be my guest!
"Conservative"
Gen Z. As I've mentioned in previous threads, the kids have some interesting ideas about what it means to be conservative. They might be religious, but their guiding principle is supposedly rationality. Snooty Aristotelian conservatives, or as Wikipedia calls them, "traditionalist conservatives". Like liberals today, these people get their kicks calling everyone but themselves crazy and acting like they're the voice of reason. They dodge most of the hard questions, much like their beloved philosopher king and Washington outsider nominee, Ben Shapiro. Don't win any electoral votes but siphon young voters from the GOP.

This is a fantasy. Actually, the whole post is a fantasy, but this is especially delirious. All the evidence shows that Gen Z is decidedly NOT conservative. Nobody actually cares about Ben Shapiro offline. Please, for the sake of your own health and sanity, go outside.

He's right, and just because you don't want to believe something doesn't mean it isn't real and happening. Gen Z is a R leaning generation and is definitely more conservative than Millenials.
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2019, 01:52:12 PM »

The fact you had to cite examples ranging from 6 months to 3 years prior to the present day reveals the fact that the point of this thread was not to provoke any kind of decent discussion, but to simply fill this subforum with another excuse for low effort posting, circlejerking and nonsensical one-dimensional hot takes.

You really think everyone's opinions change that often? I'm sure if I posted one from a week ago, you'd say "The fact that you had to cite examples ranging from 1 week ago to...."

At any rate, the point of my post was to point out that yes, despite you not seeing it with your own eyes, it does in fact exist.

Now, please, post more about how this board is trash. Don't forget to use the term "circlejerk" again. It's the only way to convey this opinion!

"B-but I still found a poster!!!"
The lengths at which you go to defend this thread is hilariously pathetic. If you wish to delve into the archives of Atlas and find an example from a week ago of a poster heralding Generation Z as the oncoming tide of conservatism for me, then be my guest!
"Conservative"
Gen Z. As I've mentioned in previous threads, the kids have some interesting ideas about what it means to be conservative. They might be religious, but their guiding principle is supposedly rationality. Snooty Aristotelian conservatives, or as Wikipedia calls them, "traditionalist conservatives". Like liberals today, these people get their kicks calling everyone but themselves crazy and acting like they're the voice of reason. They dodge most of the hard questions, much like their beloved philosopher king and Washington outsider nominee, Ben Shapiro. Don't win any electoral votes but siphon young voters from the GOP.

This is a fantasy. Actually, the whole post is a fantasy, but this is especially delirious. All the evidence shows that Gen Z is decidedly NOT conservative. Nobody actually cares about Ben Shapiro offline. Please, for the sake of your own health and sanity, go outside.

He's right, and just because you don't want to believe something doesn't mean it isn't real and happening. Gen Z is a R leaning generation and is definitely more conservative than Millenials.


Yes, that's right. Gen Z is a R leaning generation and they are fed up with the status quo. And there is nothing you can do about it.
So do you have an answer to the question in the topic?
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2019, 08:12:01 PM »
« Edited: June 12, 2019, 08:15:08 PM by The love that set me free »

I've been teaching undergrads for 3 years now, and while I try to avoid getting them to discuss things in an explicitly partisan framework, it's been pretty clear to me so far that the vast majority of them are either standard-issue liberal Democrats or moderates who are probably still figuring themselves out. I can't think of a single student who fits the stereotype of the alt-right Shapiro fanboy.
I assume you mean "alt-right or a Shapiro fanboy" because the alt-right hates Shapiro (because he's Jewish.)
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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Posts: 113,273
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2019, 04:17:53 PM »

Is it me or are all these takes on the politics of high school students like completely absurd?

I mean, I don't know what it's like in America, but in my high school basically no-one talked about politics, outside of very broad sweeping statements, like, ever.
It's even dumber when you consider most of Gen Z are YOUNGER than high school now.
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