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« Reply #75 on: October 03, 2012, 05:01:37 PM »

Don't see what Obama has done wrong here. He has used a WOMAN with a DISABILITY to hammer home the message that Romney does not care for VULNERABLE people in America.
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« Reply #76 on: October 03, 2012, 05:06:40 PM »

Exposing a down syndrome woman is despicable and pretty low for the Obama campaign.  When Sarah Palin was against abortion of her daughter Trig, alot of Liberals lambasted her for a choice.  I find that hypocritical and desperate.

Are you f-cking serious? Do you think people with Down's Syndrome don't have opinions and don't want to be heard? You want them in a little bubble so they are 'protected'? She is a woman with opinions and she can voice them in an advert if she wants. It's her choice.

Moron.
They have opinions, but to use them for political gain is disgusting.  I have nothing against programs that help the disabled or people with down syndrome.  Do you expect them to make rational reasoning or critical thinking when it comes to politics?  No

Give me a break, take back your moron comment.

Wow.

Just goes to show how erratic and nonsensical the management of this forum is.  I get 10 death points for "hatefulness" because the management can't understand a joke that I argue against in the same post that was moderated and stuff like this is left up unanswered.

Maybe the management doesn't know what Down Syndrome is and concurs with this remark.
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« Reply #77 on: October 03, 2012, 05:13:15 PM »

Exposing a down syndrome woman is despicable and pretty low for the Obama campaign.  When Sarah Palin was against abortion of her daughter Trig, alot of Liberals lambasted her for a choice.  I find that hypocritical and desperate.

Are you f-cking serious? Do you think people with Down's Syndrome don't have opinions and don't want to be heard? You want them in a little bubble so they are 'protected'? She is a woman with opinions and she can voice them in an advert if she wants. It's her choice.

Moron.
They have opinions, but to use them for political gain is disgusting.  I have nothing against against programs that help the disabled or people with down syndrome.  Do you expect them to make rational reasoning or critical thinking when it comes to politics?  No

Give me a break, take back your moron comment.

I beg your pardon? Do you realise how offensive what you just wrote is?

Speaking as someone that actually is disabled, do you realize how offensive it can be to use it politically.

Speaking as someone else who is disabled, what you said was disgusting, so stop trying to change the subject.

Ah, I didn't say it, but I do think that using it, whether a physical or mental disability, is not appropriate in a political discussion.  I would find it offensive using a disability like that.  I would not comment on the woman's mental disability either. 
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« Reply #78 on: October 03, 2012, 05:57:24 PM »

Exposing a down syndrome woman is despicable and pretty low for the Obama campaign.  When Sarah Palin was against abortion of her daughter Trig, alot of Liberals lambasted her for a choice.  I find that hypocritical and desperate.

Are you f-cking serious? Do you think people with Down's Syndrome don't have opinions and don't want to be heard? You want them in a little bubble so they are 'protected'? She is a woman with opinions and she can voice them in an advert if she wants. It's her choice.

Moron.
They have opinions, but to use them for political gain is disgusting.  I have nothing against against programs that help the disabled or people with down syndrome.  Do you expect them to make rational reasoning or critical thinking when it comes to politics?  No

Give me a break, take back your moron comment.

I beg your pardon? Do you realise how offensive what you just wrote is?

Speaking as someone that actually is disabled, do you realize how offensive it can be to use it politically.

Speaking as someone else who is disabled, what you said was disgusting, so stop trying to change the subject.

Ah, I didn't say it, but I do think that using it, whether a physical or mental disability, is not appropriate in a political discussion.  I would find it offensive using a disability like that.  I would not comment on the woman's mental disability either. 

Oh, I'm sorry! I got confused by the quote nesting and thought that you were 5280 in this context. Sorry for that.
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« Reply #79 on: October 03, 2012, 06:27:23 PM »


Oh, I'm sorry! I got confused by the quote nesting and thought that you were 5280 in this context. Sorry for that.

No problem; I figured that is what happened.  I would not have made that comment either.

Still, this just seems to be a bit exploitative.
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« Reply #80 on: October 03, 2012, 06:35:14 PM »

What koenkai says about people with somewhat misfortune crypto-eugenicist beliefs often congregating in certain leftist circles in this country is entirely correct, more's the pity, although I note that the one of these types (albeit only regarding a specific mental state, not abnormal mental states in general) currently running for Senate is a Republican.

Crypto-eugenicist beliefs tend to harp on "improving the species" by twisting Darwinism into...something else entirely. So it's really hard to get a crypto-eugeniscism through a party where much of the base rejects that entirely.

IIRC, eugenics in America was always popular among two types: progressive reformer WASP types from California/NY and racists who wanted to sterilize blacks. But I would think that the former group is far more ascendent today, since the explosion of evangelical Christianity in the South probably shredded eugenicist thought there. Regardless, these groups have a long history in the USA.

I also suspect it's a Protestant thing. Since the only other countries to engage in huge amounts of eugenics were the Scandinavian countries, where it was a bipartisan effort (both the conservatives and social democrats approved). Then again, that might be going way too far. Scandinavian eugenics was pretty terrifying.

Japan also had a brief resurgence in Eugenics after World War II, though it was interestingly pushed by the JSP and then later shut down after the reverse course and ascendance of the LDP.
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« Reply #81 on: October 03, 2012, 07:29:40 PM »

Eugenics was near-universally supported by people from the educated classes in just about every Western (and 'Western') country until the world found out quite what it was that the Nazis had done. After that it continued to influence policy on mental illness and disability in most countries until (variously) the 1960s and 1970s.
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