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Akno21
Junior Chimp
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« on: February 20, 2005, 11:40:24 PM »

Not for a while. Mississippi will become Democratic in a few decades when it becomes black majority.
Isn't that rather presumptuous? Where is it written than blacks must and will vote Democrat? The Democrats continue to push a policy that says that blacks need a helping hand to succeed (affirmative action), continue to feel entitled to black support at elections; by contrast, the Repulbicans continue to push individualism, diversity and personal responsibility. What exactly is it that gives the other party such arrogance - I was about to say "confidence" - that "black" equates to "democrat'?

Well, the exit polls have proven conclusively that blacks are almost all Democrats, regardless of how you feel about ideology. The GOP  once had a lock on black votes, but lost them through ignoring their needs. Will the same thing happen to the Democrats? Unlikely, but you never know.

If the Democrats move in a anti-religous, softie way, they could lose the black vote. Blacks are strongly against gay marriage, and from what I can tell, they strongly resent liberals telling people how to raise their kids, such as no spanking and stuff.
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Akno21
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2005, 10:35:21 AM »

The best way to give reparations would simply be to try a bunch of old Klansmen for murders they committed during the civil rights era and before.

Notre Dame rules, by saying Condi would win up to 50% of the black vote, you are severly undermining their intelligence, saying they would vote for someone who happens to be black over someone they agree with.
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Akno21
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2005, 10:57:21 AM »

Akno,

I don't think that Condi would get 50% of the vote.  However, I do think that she would get a very large percentage of the vote, possibly as hig as 30%.  Were she only to get 20%, the result is the same--Dems lose.

The Dems have gained a loyal following among black Americans by keeping them dependent on government handouts.  As the black middle class continues to expand, the grip that the Dems hold over African-Americans will loosen. 

Keep in mind, Democrats cannot win without the near total fealty of black voters, whereas Republicans have shown they can win with minimal support from blacks.

It is indeed ironic that it is GOP administrations that promote blacks to positions of great power, while their friends in the Democrat Party pay them just enough lip service to keep them on the plantation.

True, but keep in mind that, in most cases, for every group gained, there is another one lost. Against a moderate, red-state Democrat, Condi would lose a lot of the white male vote that is neccessary for a Republican to win.

The success of Condi's candidacy is Iraq, Iraq, Iraq. If that goes down the drain, so does she, since that is her main "accomplishment". She won't be able to weasle out of questions like she can during hearings. The novelty of being black and female would wear off quite quickly, kinda like John Edwards being southern and "attractive".
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