The Great Nordic Thread

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

Wow this thread is dead.


Anyways, big strikes began this evening in Finland. A whopping 300,000 workers are striking, out of a total population of 5.5 million and workforce of 2.3 million (13% of the workforce).

Whole country is grinding to a halt. Railways, busses, metros, airlines, childcare centers, industry, restaurants, hotels, postal workers, retail and more are affected.

The Orpo government wants to cut sickness pay, unemployment benefits, weaken protection against dismissal, restrict the right to strike, and weakening nationwide sectoral bargaining.

[Helsinkian]

There was a school shooting today in Vantaa, Finland. A 12-year-old student shot three classmates of the same age, killing one and seriously injuring two. The gun was registered to a family member of the shooter. Police described the act as premeditated.

Nevertheless, the shooter will not be charged with anything and will not spend a single day behind bars. This is because the Finnish law states that no one under the age of 15 is criminally culpable for their actions. I have long considered that absurd, and this case just underlines that. A 12-year-old is not a toddler. A 12-year-old knows what murder is and what happens when you shoot someone. Sweden's law is the same in this regard, and there criminal gangs actively recruit children under 15 for this very reason.

The shooter will probably be taken into custody of social workers and moved into another school with a new name. Everyone who knows his identity will be forced to keep quiet. And then we'll just wait to see if he does it again.

[Flyersfan232]

There was a school shooting today in Vantaa, Finland. A 12-year-old student shot three classmates of the same age, killing one and seriously injuring two. The gun was registered to a family member of the shooter. Police described the act as premeditated.

Nevertheless, the shooter will not be charged with anything and will not spend a single day behind bars. This is because the Finnish law states that no one under the age of 15 is criminally culpable for their actions. I have long considered that absurd, and this case just underlines that. A 12-year-old is not a toddler. A 12-year-old knows what murder is and what happens when you shoot someone. Sweden's law is the same in this regard, and there criminal gangs actively recruit children under 15 for this very reason.

The shooter will probably be taken into custody of social workers and moved into another school with a new name. Everyone who knows his identity will be forced to keep quiet. And then we'll just wait to see if he does it again.

any proposal to change this?

[Helsinkian]

There haven't been any concrete proposals, no.

[Helsinkian]

In a rather bizarre episode, an MP for the Finns Party, Timo Vornanen, was recently arrested for an altercation outside a Helsinki nightclub where he allegedly pointed a pistol in the direction of a group of people and then fired a "warning shot" into the ground. The gun was legal, but you're not generally permitted to carry one with you. Ironically, Vornanen was a police officer prior to his election.

Expelling an MP is not easy. It would first require being sentenced to imprisonment (including a suspended term) with the appeals process completed. Only then would the parliament be able to to expel him with a two-thirds majority. In the meanwhile I would expect him to be suspended from the parliamentary group.

[Aboa]

In a rather bizarre episode, an MP for the Finns Party, Timo Vornanen, was recently arrested for an altercation outside a Helsinki nightclub where he allegedly pointed a pistol in the direction of a group of people and then fired a "warning shot" into the ground. The gun was legal, but you're not generally permitted to carry one with you. Ironically, Vornanen was a police officer prior to his election.

Expelling an MP is not easy. It would first require being sentenced to imprisonment (including a suspended term) with the appeals process completed. Only then would the parliament be able to to expel him with a two-thirds majority. In the meanwhile I would expect him to be suspended from the parliamentary group.

It turned that the reason behind the shooting was an earlier fight between member of the group being shot at and Vornanen over who would get to sit next to pair of 18 and 19 year old girls for whom Vornanen (who is 54 and married) had been buying drinks throughout the night.