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[brucejoel99]

The notion Doug Jones is a socialist is just fully nonsense. He's a moderate-to-liberal Democrat, much in the same corner than Joe Biden.

Nobody who isn't a full-fleged fascist or AnCap thinks Doug Jones is a socialist.

Every democrat is a socialist.

To some degree, most of them, yeah

Hahaha.

No.

It’s a fact, the Democratic Party is to the left of most center left parties across the western world (

This is patently false. The Democratic Party, & American politics in general, is much more right-leaning than most of the democratic world.

[Rookie Yinzer]

It’s a fact, the Democratic Party is to the left of most center left parties across the western world (

Huh? How are you so concerned about our politics when you clearly don't understand the politics on your own continent?

[Frenchrepublican]

The notion Doug Jones is a socialist is just fully nonsense. He's a moderate-to-liberal Democrat, much in the same corner than Joe Biden.

Nobody who isn't a full-fleged fascist or AnCap thinks Doug Jones is a socialist.

Every democrat is a socialist.

To some degree, most of them, yeah

Hahaha.

No.

It’s a fact, the Democratic Party is to the left of most center left parties across the western world (

This is patently false. The Democratic Party, & American politics in general, is much more right-leaning than most of the democratic world.

Well, it’s clear that you don’t know anything about European politics ; Americans politics looks more right leaning because the Republican Party is to the right of its European conservative counterparts   (On social issues for example very few European center right politicians are pro life, most european center right parties don’t want to shrink the size of the government), at the same time the US Democratic Party is clearly to the left of center left European parties.

A few example ;
-Francois Hollande, the former socialist French President did many pro business reforms (Corporate tax cut + an important reform of Labor laws in 2016 which irked big unions)
-Our actual President, Emmanuel Macron (the anti Trump according to the NY times) continued on the same path, in 2017 he did another important reform in order to ease even more labor laws, he repealed the wealth tax (you know the tax that Warren would like to put in place) and reduced significantly the taxation of capital gains
-In Denmark the Social Democratic Party has just won legislative elections while running on a anti immigrant platform in order to seduce the white working class which had abandoned social democrats over the past decade
-In Germany the SPD is full of deficit hawks who have little in common with tax and spend US democrats

Once again, the European center right sucks, they are more like Charlie Baker than Trump but in the other hand the European center left parties are clearly to the right of the Democratic Party

[Epaminondas]

It’s a fact, the Democratic Party is to the left of most center left parties across the western world

Mods: this post should be moved to the "Do you want a good laugh ?" thread.

Once again, the European center right sucks, they are more like Charlie Baker than Trump but in the other hand the European center left parties are clearly to the right of the Democratic Party

So... the US right is to the right of the European right, but the US left is to the left of the European left?
So same thing, just stretched out? What happenned to the middle, did it snap?

What's more:
- Macron is not left-wing.
- Hollande didn't stand again in 2017 (6% approval rate) precisely because he didn't rule as the left-winger people had elected him as, but as center right economically.
- you have never followed Danish politics, right? you just name checked them to try to sound a little less delusional.

[Frenchrepublican]

It’s a fact, the Democratic Party is to the left of most center left parties across the western world (

Huh? How are you so concerned about our politics when you clearly don't understand the politics on your own continent?

I’m sorry to tell you, but you should stop believing Sanders when he tells you that Europe is a socialist paradise.
No, we don’t have free universal healthcare (public healthcare is only covering some risks and the quality of public healthcare is pretty bad, for example when you buy glasses in France the French social security will only cover a very small part of the cost of the glasses :2.4 euros to be exact)

Rather making fun on me, you should try to inform yourself a bit more about European politics and you would see that Macron for example is far closer to a moderate republican or eventually to Mike Bloomberg than a Democratic politician

[Epaminondas]

I’m sorry to tell you, but you should stop believing Sanders when he tells you that Europe is a socialist paradise.
No, we don’t have free universal healthcare (public healthcare is only covering some risks and the quality of public healthcare is pretty bad, for example when you buy glasses in France the French social security will only cover a very small part of the cost of the glasses :2.4 euros to be exact)

Rather making fun on me, you should try to inform yourself a bit more about European politics and you would see that Macron for example is far closer to a moderate republican or eventually to Mike Bloomberg than a Democratic politician

Yes, that is correct, as there still are a few moderate Republicans. But then again, Macron's party is centre-right. The proof is in the pudding: he has now absorbed the main right-wing party.
This does NOT mean, however, that the Democratic party is left. If anything it's also pretty close to Macron, just a little less insensitive to social issues.

As for the glasses thing, have you ever been to the US and been ill? You sound like someone who's never had to spend more than €100 on anything health-related, but feels entitled to pay nothing at all.

Not saying that's the case, but it sounds like you have no clue just how devastatingly unfair the US healthcare system is for poor people. On a 3-day trip to Illinois a few years ago I had an bad allergy/asthma attack, and after checking in myself they charged $1500 for a few hours in a bed in the hospital.
Thankfully, this was covered by my EU healthcare.
Still, madness.

[Frenchrepublican]

It’s a fact, the Democratic Party is to the left of most center left parties across the western world

Mods: this post should be moved to the "Do you want a good laugh ?" thread.

Once again, the European center right sucks, they are more like Charlie Baker than Trump but in the other hand the European center left parties are clearly to the right of the Democratic Party

So... the US right is to the right of the European right, but the US left is to the left of the European left?
So same thing, just stretched out? What happenned to the middle, did it snap?

In the case you didn’t notice, most American politicians are either very liberal, or very conservative. Moderates (Manchin, Lipinski, Curbelo, Hurd are more the exception than the rule)

What's more:
- Macron is not left-wing.

It’s my point, the French center left is to the right of the Democratic Party

- Hollande didn't stand again in 2017 (6% approval rate) precisely because he didn't rule as the left-winger people had elected him as, but as center right economically.

Lol, you are the biggest moron of this forum. Had Hollande ruled as a left winger France would have bankrupted

- you have never followed Danish politics, right? you just name checked them to try to sound a little less delusional.

What I said is factually true, Fredericksen is clearly an immigration restrictionist. And if there is one kind of delusional people, it’s clearly those who claim to be socialist. How can a sane people be a socialist in 2019 ?!

[NyIndy]

Could Moore winning the primary have an impact on the Presidential Election by causing problems for Trump and other Republicans who will probably have to choose between endorsing him during a general election and giving up on the most winnable and one of only 2 likely Senate Pickups

[Progressive Pessimist]

Could Moore winning the primary have an impact on the Presidential Election by causing problems for Trump and other Republicans who will probably have to choose between endorsing him during a general election and giving up on the most winnable and one of only 2 likely Senate Pickups

If we're lucky.

[Frenchrepublican]

I’m sorry to tell you, but you should stop believing Sanders when he tells you that Europe is a socialist paradise.
No, we don’t have free universal healthcare (public healthcare is only covering some risks and the quality of public healthcare is pretty bad, for example when you buy glasses in France the French social security will only cover a very small part of the cost of the glasses :2.4 euros to be exact)

Rather making fun on me, you should try to inform yourself a bit more about European politics and you would see that Macron for example is far closer to a moderate republican or eventually to Mike Bloomberg than a Democratic politician

Yes, that is correct, as there still are a few moderate Republicans. But then again, Macron's party is centre-right. The proof is in the pudding: he has now absorbed the main right-wing party.
This does NOT mean, however, that the Democratic party is left. If anything it's also pretty close to Macron, just a little less insensitive to social issues.

As for the glasses thing, have you ever been to the US and been ill? You sound like someone who's never had to spend more than €100 on anything health-related, but feels entitled to pay nothing at all.

Not saying that's the case, but it sounds like you have no clue just how devastatingly unfair the US healthcare system is for poor people. On a 3-day trip to Illinois a few years ago I had an bad allergy/asthma attack, and after checking in myself they charged $1500 for a few hours in a bed in the hospital.
Thankfully, this was covered by my EU healthcare.
Still, madness.

1. Macron repealed the wealth tax, democrats want to create one, they are not pretty close.

2. I don’t feel entitled to pay nothing at all, to be honest, actually I would prefer a system with only private insurance and thus I could choose a plan which fits my needs and only my needs. Anyway I just pointed out the fact that contrary to what democrats are saying, you don’t have universal healthcare in Europe. You have a mixed system like in most of the developed world.

[Some of My Best Friends Are Gay]

The notion Doug Jones is a socialist is just fully nonsense. He's a moderate-to-liberal Democrat, much in the same corner than Joe Biden.

Nobody who isn't a full-fleged fascist or AnCap thinks Doug Jones is a socialist.

Every democrat is a socialist.

To some degree, most of them, yeah

Hahaha.

No.

It’s a fact, the Democratic Party is to the left of most center left parties across the western world (

True, I remember when the Democrats nominated a crazy socialist in 2016 instead of a neoliberal centrist who wouldn't be out of place in the UK Conservative Party...

[brucejoel99]

The notion Doug Jones is a socialist is just fully nonsense. He's a moderate-to-liberal Democrat, much in the same corner than Joe Biden.

Nobody who isn't a full-fleged fascist or AnCap thinks Doug Jones is a socialist.

Every democrat is a socialist.

To some degree, most of them, yeah

Hahaha.

No.

It’s a fact, the Democratic Party is to the left of most center left parties across the western world (

This is patently false. The Democratic Party, & American politics in general, is much more right-leaning than most of the democratic world.

Well, it’s clear that you don’t know anything about European politics ; Americans politics looks more right leaning because the Republican Party is to the right of its European conservative counterparts   (On social issues for example very few European center right politicians are pro life, most european center right parties don’t want to shrink the size of the government), at the same time the US Democratic Party is clearly to the left of center left European parties.

A few example ;
-Francois Hollande, the former socialist French President did many pro business reforms (Corporate tax cut + an important reform of Labor laws in 2016 which irked big unions)
-Our actual President, Emmanuel Macron (the anti Trump according to the NY times) continued on the same path, in 2017 he did another important reform in order to ease even more labor laws, he repealed the wealth tax (you know the tax that Warren would like to put in place) and reduced significantly the taxation of capital gains
-In Denmark the Social Democratic Party has just won legislative elections while running on a anti immigrant platform in order to seduce the white working class which had abandoned social democrats over the past decade
-In Germany the SPD is full of deficit hawks who have little in common with tax and spend US democrats

Once again, the European center right sucks, they are more like Charlie Baker than Trump but in the other hand the European center left parties are clearly to the right of the Democratic Party

lol k

If you're just gonna be false & not even try to make it seem as if you have a grasp (however small) of how politics, y'know, actually works, then I'm not gonna continue taking you seriously as a poster.

[Frenchrepublican]

The notion Doug Jones is a socialist is just fully nonsense. He's a moderate-to-liberal Democrat, much in the same corner than Joe Biden.

Nobody who isn't a full-fleged fascist or AnCap thinks Doug Jones is a socialist.

Every democrat is a socialist.

To some degree, most of them, yeah

Hahaha.

No.

It’s a fact, the Democratic Party is to the left of most center left parties across the western world (

This is patently false. The Democratic Party, & American politics in general, is much more right-leaning than most of the democratic world.

Well, it’s clear that you don’t know anything about European politics ; Americans politics looks more right leaning because the Republican Party is to the right of its European conservative counterparts   (On social issues for example very few European center right politicians are pro life, most european center right parties don’t want to shrink the size of the government), at the same time the US Democratic Party is clearly to the left of center left European parties.

A few example ;
-Francois Hollande, the former socialist French President did many pro business reforms (Corporate tax cut + an important reform of Labor laws in 2016 which irked big unions)
-Our actual President, Emmanuel Macron (the anti Trump according to the NY times) continued on the same path, in 2017 he did another important reform in order to ease even more labor laws, he repealed the wealth tax (you know the tax that Warren would like to put in place) and reduced significantly the taxation of capital gains
-In Denmark the Social Democratic Party has just won legislative elections while running on a anti immigrant platform in order to seduce the white working class which had abandoned social democrats over the past decade
-In Germany the SPD is full of deficit hawks who have little in common with tax and spend US democrats

Once again, the European center right sucks, they are more like Charlie Baker than Trump but in the other hand the European center left parties are clearly to the right of the Democratic Party

lol k

If you're just gonna be false & not even try to make it seem as if you have a grasp (however small) of how politics, y'know, actually works, then I'm not gonna continue taking you seriously as a poster.

Lol
You are just pathetic, anyway, what I said above is totally true, I’m sorry dude but those are facts, I know that many democrats chose to ignore facts when they don’t fit their own opinion, their own narrative, but still you should try. I also note the that your are absolutely unable to argue with me, you spend your time claiming things (Democrats are moderate, Doug Jones is a an independent minded senator, Democrats stand for the national interest, Kavanaugh is a serial rapist....), but once you are challenged you are absolutely unable to build a serious answer, so you you mock me. It’s a bit pathetic to be honest.

Don’t worry, it’s my last discussion with you, I don’t have anymore time to lose with a childish, uninformed democratic hack like you.

[brucejoel99]

The notion Doug Jones is a socialist is just fully nonsense. He's a moderate-to-liberal Democrat, much in the same corner than Joe Biden.

Nobody who isn't a full-fleged fascist or AnCap thinks Doug Jones is a socialist.

Every democrat is a socialist.

To some degree, most of them, yeah

Hahaha.

No.

It’s a fact, the Democratic Party is to the left of most center left parties across the western world (

This is patently false. The Democratic Party, & American politics in general, is much more right-leaning than most of the democratic world.

Well, it’s clear that you don’t know anything about European politics ; Americans politics looks more right leaning because the Republican Party is to the right of its European conservative counterparts   (On social issues for example very few European center right politicians are pro life, most european center right parties don’t want to shrink the size of the government), at the same time the US Democratic Party is clearly to the left of center left European parties.

A few example ;
-Francois Hollande, the former socialist French President did many pro business reforms (Corporate tax cut + an important reform of Labor laws in 2016 which irked big unions)
-Our actual President, Emmanuel Macron (the anti Trump according to the NY times) continued on the same path, in 2017 he did another important reform in order to ease even more labor laws, he repealed the wealth tax (you know the tax that Warren would like to put in place) and reduced significantly the taxation of capital gains
-In Denmark the Social Democratic Party has just won legislative elections while running on a anti immigrant platform in order to seduce the white working class which had abandoned social democrats over the past decade
-In Germany the SPD is full of deficit hawks who have little in common with tax and spend US democrats

Once again, the European center right sucks, they are more like Charlie Baker than Trump but in the other hand the European center left parties are clearly to the right of the Democratic Party

lol k

If you're just gonna be false & not even try to make it seem as if you have a grasp (however small) of how politics, y'know, actually works, then I'm not gonna continue taking you seriously as a poster.

Lol
You are just pathetic, anyway, what I said above is totally true, I’m sorry dude but those are facts, I know that many democrats chose to ignore facts when they don’t fit their own opinion, their own narrative, but still you should try. I also note the that your are absolutely unable to argue with me, you spend your time claiming things (Democrats are moderate, Doug Jones is a an independent minded senator, Democrats stand for the national interest, Kavanaugh is a serial rapist....), but once you are challenged you are absolutely unable to build a serious answer, so you you mock me. It’s a bit pathetic to be honest.

Don’t worry, it’s my last discussion with you, I don’t have anymore time to lose with a childish, uninformed democratic hack like you.

For one thing, I never said that "Democrats are moderate" (they lean right compared to the rest of the word but they're an overall center-left party) or that "Kavanaugh was a serial rapist" but thanks for putting words in my mouth, "dude."

For another, I've provided you with nothing but serious answers, because everything that I have said (& that mostly everybody else who chooses to respond to you as well has said) is so serious that it's common f**king sense & doesn't require "build[ing]" to the point where it's text blocks upon paragraphs upon essays of rebuttal. Because it's all common sense!!

But nah, I'm the pathetic one. Pfft, give me a g break.

And if you think what you said were "totally true" facts; if you think that I'm the one choosing to ignore facts when they don't fit my own opinion & my own narrative; if you think that I'm the child here; if you think I'm the uninformed one here; if you think I'm the hack here... then either none of those words mean what you think they mean, or you have a severe case of psychological projection & need to get in touch with a therapist immediately. Or both.

[Yellowhammer]

https://www.johnhmerrill.com/

AL-SOS John Merrill is in.

[Brittain33]

Let’s stay on topic: Alabama senate Race.

[brucejoel99]

https://www.johnhmerrill.com/

AL-SOS John Merrill is in.

His Twitter feed is an endless string of Fox News & Breitbart dad hot takes. Check it out unless, of course, he has blocked you. He can't stand those libs & won't let them use his social media as a platform!

Obviously a completely rational & normal person.

Also, a vocal Roy Moore supporter from 2017.

[Yellowhammer]

https://www.johnhmerrill.com/

AL-SOS John Merrill is in.

His Twitter feed is an endless string of Fox News & Breitbart dad hot takes. Check it out unless, of course, he has blocked you. He can't stand those libs & won't let them use his social media as a platform!

Obviously a completely rational & normal person.

Also, a vocal Roy Moore supporter from 2017.

Well, not voting for Moore in 2017 would’ve been extremely irrational.

[MassBlueDog]

Well, Bentley has said that he's considering an entry into the race...

lolAlabama

[The Undefeatable Debbie Stabenow]

Well, Bentley has said that he's considering an entry into the race...

lolAlabama

If I was Doug Jones, I would be spending every penny I have to secure a Moore vs. Bentley primary runoff.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

https://mobile.twitter.com/DougJonesHQ/status/1144682536016187393

How to lose Alabama 101 for dummies, seriously is he even trying anymore?

[President Johnson]

https://mobile.twitter.com/DougJonesHQ/status/1144682536016187393

How to lose Alabama 101 for dummies, seriously is he even trying anymore?

He would be an excellent Attorney General for any Democratic president.

[One Term Floridian]

Could Moore winning the primary have an impact on the Presidential Election by causing problems for Trump and other Republicans who will probably have to choose between endorsing him during a general election and giving up on the most winnable and one of only 2 likely Senate Pickups

Wait wat. Which other Democrat-held seat is a "likely" GOP senate pickup? Lol

[TML]

Could Moore winning the primary have an impact on the Presidential Election by causing problems for Trump and other Republicans who will probably have to choose between endorsing him during a general election and giving up on the most winnable and one of only 2 likely Senate Pickups

Wait wat. Which other Democrat-held seat is a "likely" GOP senate pickup? Lol

My best guess is the other state where the incumbent Democrat is representing a Trump state in 2016 (although I personally think this seat is less likely to flip than what some on this forum think).

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

https://mobile.twitter.com/DougJonesHQ/status/1144682536016187393

How to lose Alabama 101 for dummies, seriously is he even trying anymore?

I'd rather him be a loving father than someone who would pretend to be homophobic for political gain.