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« on: September 21, 2011, 08:19:53 PM »

Let's say that the 1796 election is held today with today's map, the candidates having to take stands on today's issues, and let's also add that the VP rules are changed so there are actual running-mates.

Vice-President John Adams (F-MA)/Former Governor Thomas Pinckney (F-SC)

vs.

Former Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson (DR-VA)/Senator Aaron Burr (DR-NY)

Who wins? What does the map look like? I know it's a stretch, transporting people over 200 years forward in time and being judged by today's electorate, but any guesses?
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2011, 07:13:57 PM »

After a very brief look at both men's Presidencies as well as scanning over Jefferson's religion, here's how I think they might stand on some issues:

Jefferson:
-Supports the War on Terror
-Opposes the Patriot Act
-Believes in separation of Church and State and will articulate this in the campaign
-Believes in government efficiency
-Calls for strict Constitutionality and not too much centralization of power and for the President to truly be checked by Congress
-Believes decisions on social issues should be left to the states
-Campaigns on lower taxes, yet for farm subsidies and agricultural reform
-Is in no way a fan of immigration, opposing guest workers programs and the like, but immigrants end up voting for him, the lesser of tow evils

Adams:
-Opposes the War on Terror and calls instead for diplomacy and greater American security
-Believes in Patriot Act and immigration controls, claiming that the security of the country for whatever price
-While officially Unitarian, does have more support for Christianity than Jefferson who, despite being very interested in morality and religion, loses out to the Religious Right to Adams on the issue who essentially his Christian supporters try to portray him as any other man trying to find the right morality and believing that Christianity was a revelation however its churches did need reform
-Bills himself as maverick, not very supportive of party systems
-Says that he can make the unpopular but right decisions

Going on that, this is what I drew up.

Former Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson (DR-VA)/Senator Aaron Burr DR-NY) 281 electoral votes
Vice-President John Adams (F-MA)/Former Governor Thomas Pinckney (F-SC) 257 electoral votes
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2011, 10:16:31 PM »

No other takers? Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2011, 09:12:32 PM »



Jefferson wages a libertarian populist pro-farm campaign.
Adams emphasizes urban and industrial renewal.
This map is 274-264 for Jefferson, but that's probably a maximum - Adams might well do much better.

Thanks for the reply. The map makes sense, though I'm wondering about Vermont in this, though I suppose it could go to the Populist-Libertarian Jefferson campaign.
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2011, 11:01:06 AM »

Bumping this. On social issues, Adams was the much more religious one & that would probably play a part. Jefferson's lack of a good answer to the question of religion hurts his numbers, but he has a large amount of support from Separation of Church & State types. Modern social issues would be hard to guage with these two, but that's the blue print I would use.
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