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« Reply #900 on: November 07, 2019, 06:48:58 AM »

Dems may have only won the governorship, but it's clear there was a left-ward shift for KY, and that was WITH huge mega turnout.

Trump won by 30%. None of the Republicans even topped 20%, and only one really topped 15% by that much. I mean, the Dem in the SoS race was only behind 4% in .... again... a Trump +30 state.
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« Reply #901 on: November 07, 2019, 07:49:02 AM »

Team McConnell also seems fairly happy with the results.

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« Reply #902 on: November 07, 2019, 08:16:15 AM »

Pretty rich from Moscow Mitch!
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« Reply #903 on: November 07, 2019, 08:48:28 AM »

Has Bevin provided any substantial evidence for the irregularities he's claiming? This looks like a sore loser who can't accept defeat and puts his own ego over the voters decision. Smells like NC-gov 2016. Dude should concede, ensure a smooth transition and move on.

Nothing beyond something about illegal absentee ballots or something like that.
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« Reply #904 on: November 07, 2019, 08:58:31 AM »

Dems may have only won the governorship, but it's clear there was a left-ward shift for KY, and that was WITH huge mega turnout.

Trump won by 30%. None of the Republicans even topped 20%, and only one really topped 15% by that much. I mean, the Dem in the SoS race was only behind 4% in .... again... a Trump +30 state.

In 2012 Romney won by 22.7% and 3 years later in 2015 the average GOP margin in statewide races was 8.5%, running 14.2% behind Romney.

In 2016, Trump won by 29.8% and 3 years later in 2019 the average statewide margin excluding the governors race where you had a weak GOP candidate was 15.1%, running 14.7% behind Trump.

Republicans did as well relative to trump in 2019 as they did relative to Romney in 2015.
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« Reply #905 on: November 07, 2019, 09:18:07 AM »

Dems may have only won the governorship, but it's clear there was a left-ward shift for KY, and that was WITH huge mega turnout.

Trump won by 30%. None of the Republicans even topped 20%, and only one really topped 15% by that much. I mean, the Dem in the SoS race was only behind 4% in .... again... a Trump +30 state.

In 2012 Romney won by 22.7% and 3 years later in 2015 the average GOP margin in statewide races was 8.5%, running 14.2% behind Romney.

In 2016, Trump won by 29.8% and 3 years later in 2019 the average statewide margin excluding the governors race where you had a weak GOP candidate was 15.1%, running 14.7% behind Trump.

Republicans did as well relative to trump in 2019 as they did relative to Romney in 2015.


Despite having an even greater wind to their back.
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« Reply #906 on: November 07, 2019, 10:01:18 AM »

Dems may have only won the governorship, but it's clear there was a left-ward shift for KY, and that was WITH huge mega turnout.

Trump won by 30%. None of the Republicans even topped 20%, and only one really topped 15% by that much. I mean, the Dem in the SoS race was only behind 4% in .... again... a Trump +30 state.

Nope, Dems turned out in larger numbers but this is not proof of a leftward shift in Kentucky. It's more proof that it's exactly the same state it has been, giving Democrats larger %'s in off-year statewide races and getting proportionately more Republican with its federal level leanings.
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« Reply #907 on: November 07, 2019, 01:11:31 PM »

The Dem statewide margin for VA House ended up being +9%.... exactly like in 2017.
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« Reply #908 on: November 07, 2019, 03:04:00 PM »

Roll Eyes Dem candidate currently only up 4 in the state senate seat that was redrawn this summer to make even a higher % black (it was already majority black and held by a Republican, who ran for Treasurer and lost in the primary).

The MS Democratic Party is a disgraceful catastrophe in the legislative races.

Looks like R+3 in the Senate to get to 36-16, assuming Democrats eke out the Court-mandated VRA seat that's still close.

In the House, Democrats actually knocked out an incumbent in DeSoto of all places. Go figure. Not sure what the swing will end up as.

House was R+2.

That DeSoto seat was Horn Lake which has changed a bunch of the last decade. Dems also picked up HD64 in NE Jackson/Ridgeland where there's a similar dynamic.
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« Reply #909 on: November 09, 2019, 04:59:49 PM »

Sawant has taken the lead in her race over Egan Orion (Amazon-Seattle). About 2k votes remain and she's leading by about 1.5k.

And the good people of Seattle defend their city from the corporate looters.
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« Reply #910 on: November 09, 2019, 05:53:59 PM »

Sawant has taken the lead in her race over Egan Orion (Amazon-Seattle). About 2k votes remain and she's leading by about 1.5k.

And the good people of Seattle defend their city from the corporate looters.

Whoever campaigned for Jill Stein in Pennsylvania deserves to lose and retire in shame for the rest of their lives.
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« Reply #911 on: November 09, 2019, 06:10:23 PM »

Sawant has taken the lead in her race over Egan Orion (Amazon-Seattle). About 2k votes remain and she's leading by about 1.5k.

And the good people of Seattle defend their city from the corporate looters.

Whoever campaigned for Jill Stein in Pennsylvania deserves to lose and retire in shame for the rest of their lives.

That doesn't matter. I'm not as crazy about her as I am about AOC or Bernie (largely for the reason you mentioned), but it's either her or a literal puppet for big business.
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« Reply #912 on: November 09, 2019, 06:53:40 PM »

Sawant has taken the lead in her race over Egan Orion (Amazon-Seattle). About 2k votes remain and she's leading by about 1.5k.

And the good people of Seattle defend their city from the corporate looters.

Whoever campaigned for Jill Stein in Pennsylvania deserves to lose and retire in shame for the rest of their lives.

That doesn't matter. I'm not as crazy about her as I am about AOC or Bernie (largely for the reason you mentioned), but it's either her or a literal puppet for big business.

Can't say I'm surprised that in px's mind holding years-old grudges against a kooky 3rd party candidate who won less than 1% is more important than standing up to a dystopian megacorporation that has the means and will to try to buy seats for its favored candidates. Clearly he's got his priorities straight.
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« Reply #913 on: November 09, 2019, 07:30:52 PM »

Can't say I'm surprised that in px's mind holding years-old grudges against a kooky 3rd party candidate who won less than 1% is more important than standing up to a dystopian megacorporation that has the means and will to try to buy seats for its favored candidates. Clearly he's got his priorities straight.

Yeah, in 2016 my priority as an elected official would have been to keep a racist sociopath away from the White House instead of showing off how ideologically pure I am.
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« Reply #914 on: November 09, 2019, 08:15:10 PM »

Can't say I'm surprised that in px's mind holding years-old grudges against a kooky 3rd party candidate who won less than 1% is more important than standing up to a dystopian megacorporation that has the means and will to try to buy seats for its favored candidates. Clearly he's got his priorities straight.

Yeah, in 2016 my priority as an elected official would have been to keep a racist sociopath away from the White House instead of showing off how ideologically pure I am.

Glad to know you would sell this country out to oligarchy if it means owning the left.
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« Reply #915 on: November 09, 2019, 08:24:01 PM »

Can't say I'm surprised that in px's mind holding years-old grudges against a kooky 3rd party candidate who won less than 1% is more important than standing up to a dystopian megacorporation that has the means and will to try to buy seats for its favored candidates. Clearly he's got his priorities straight.

Yeah, in 2016 my priority as an elected official would have been to keep a racist sociopath away from the White House instead of showing off how ideologically pure I am.

Glad to know you would sell this country out to oligarchy if it means owning the left.

From what I've read her opponent is as left-wing as she, so no need to overdramatize her possible loss.
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« Reply #916 on: November 09, 2019, 08:41:10 PM »
« Edited: November 09, 2019, 08:51:08 PM by Landslide Lyndon »


Not according to this.

https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2019/11/07/41927073/maybe-amazon-bought-the-election-or-maybe-voters-were-sick-of-sawant
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« Reply #917 on: November 09, 2019, 08:47:31 PM »

Orion's "bold" proposal for rent was allowing landlords to "only" increase rent by 10% a year. Clearly he's just as left-wing as a socialist. I've got some issues with Sawant (like her somewhat overall, but she's definitely imperfect), but Amazon and rent companies deserve her, especially after how much they poured into the race to take her out. If only my district could've overcome Amazon's massive spending as well (still technically possible, but not looking good.)
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« Reply #918 on: November 09, 2019, 09:02:45 PM »


He's literally the former Director of the Capitol Hill Chamber of Commerce and spent the campaign waffling (re: changing his position in a calculated manner depending on whether he was talking to journalists for mainstream left-wing outlets or, more importantly, to CASE, the Amazon-funded Super PAC) on the issue of having an income tax for high earners. But sure, keep telling yourself that Orion is an ideological clone of Sawant who was only running against her because he was upset about her Jill Stein support or something.

I think the article makes it clear that he run because she has managed to alienate even her own ideological allies. I know it might sound sacrilegious to the members of the purity brigade but checking all the right ideological boxes doesn't change the fact the she is a sh**tty individual.
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« Reply #919 on: November 09, 2019, 09:26:59 PM »

Sawant being a prickly individual is not why Amazon spent millions to defeat her, nor is it the reason that Orion (who was never an "ideological ally" of Sawant, within the context of Seattle politics, Jesus Christ man!), an ex-Chamber of Commerce chief, ran against her. It's not a question of "ideological purity", they represent completely different and diametrically opposed factions of Seattle politics.

Where did I say that the guy was her ideological ally? What I wrote is that her abrasive character left her friendless and thus gave an opening for someone to challenge her.
And the article also correctly mentions that Amazon supporting her opponent should have been a boon for her.
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« Reply #920 on: November 10, 2019, 12:12:46 AM »

You guys, Jill Stein and Amazon can be, and are, simultaneously awful. Not mutually exclusive.
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« Reply #921 on: November 10, 2019, 12:25:24 AM »

You guys, Jill Stein and Amazon can be, and are, simultaneously awful. Not mutually exclusive.

No one is arguing that Jill Stein isn't awful.
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« Reply #922 on: November 10, 2019, 03:08:55 AM »

If Edwards beats Rispone by at least 43.000 votes next week, then Democrats got a combined plurality of votes for the first time since 1991 in those 3 states:

ca. 49% D
ca. 49% R

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?year=2019&off=5&f=1

If Edwards wins big, a majority with 50%+ is also possible.
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« Reply #923 on: November 10, 2019, 03:24:42 AM »

If Edwards beats Rispone by at least 43.000 votes next week, then Democrats got a combined plurality of votes for the first time since 1991 in those 3 states:

ca. 49% D
ca. 49% R

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?year=2019&off=5&f=1

If Edwards wins big, a majority with 50%+ is also possible.

Wait they didnt get a plurality in those 3 states in 1999
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« Reply #924 on: November 10, 2019, 03:47:22 AM »

Wait they didnt get a plurality in those 3 states in 1999

Republicans only lost MS by 1% and got ~400k more votes than Democrats in LA.
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