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Odd since here in Canada, the Tories (our right wing party) won several provincial capitals (Fredericton, Quebec City, Winnipeg, Regina, Edmonton, and Yellowknife) although only in Edmonton did they get over 50% and also most Canadian cities tend to have fewer suburbs and extend further out.  Even our national capital Ottawa went Conservative, although with 42%.

Canadian city limits often include lots of suburbia. Inner-city areas in Ottawa, Quebec, probably Winnipeg too and large parts of Regina since Sask ridings are rurban gerrymandered sh**ts didn't vote Conservative.

The legal City of Ottawa for example includes Orleans, Kanata, Nepean, and a whole lot of very rural areas. Quebec City also extends, IIRC, into suburbia since the fusions in 2003.

and, afaik, most American major cities don't include suburbia except Jacksonville and a few others. Look at the borders of the legal cities of Chicago, Detroit, NYC, Boston, LA, and so forth.

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That is very true.  Also most tend to extend right out to the countryside.  Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal are the exceptions which do tend to focus more on the urban core although both Toronto and Montreal did amalgamate some suburbs, but still have many beyond their limits.  I should add Halifax also extends well out into the country although the Tories did poorly throughout.  In the US I think Jacksonville and Oklahoma City are amongst the few that fit this description and they both backed McCain.  Staten Island is also probably more suburban than urban at least in contrast to the other four boroughs and off course it is far more Republican than the other four boroughs.  And you are right about the rurban ridings although the Tories still won Regina due to the split on the left however it was with 38%, not the 45% they got in the ridings that include Regina.

Yup. The legal city of Montreal is a patchwork because of the de-fusions in 2004 or so, when the Anglos got very scared at the thought of being in the same city as Hochelaga-Maisonneuve and Montréal-Nord. However, what I see as Montreal includes a lot of on-island suburbia, such as the West Island, Pointe-aux-Trembles etc. Ditto with Toronto, including York, Etobicoke, Scarborough. Though neither votes like suburbia usually does.

Vancouver City, indeed, only includes the urban core.

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Vienna, Austria ---- More left wing

IIRC also one of the fascist's best areas in the country outside the sh**thole Carinthia. Greenies win inner-city.

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The French part leans more to the liberals than the PS, especially compared to Wallonia.

Dutch part of the city, which is minimal, is fascist or was so until recently. Probably the factor of living as a minority in a French-majority city.

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and the top left-wing party here, IIRC, is often SF and not the Social Democrats. I remember the SF swept inner city.

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The Finnish right is a urban-based thing, especially when compared to the rural agrarian Centre, which predictably polls sh**t in Helsinki. And the major centre-left party here is not the SDP, but the Greenies who quasi-consistently break 20%.

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Nowadays, yes, but it's not as much working-class socialism as middle-class bobo socialism. It's also very polarized, like the whole region, between some uber-wealthy areas westside and poorer areas generally eastside (20eme and 13eme). Though what wins it for the PS is the middle-class and hippie vote in inner city, once a right-wing stronghold, now voting left due to the gentrification of the French left. And those voters are by no means staunchly PS voters, check the Euros.

Until the 80s or so, Paris was a right-wing city, even without Chirac though he helped a lot.

Though Paris was once the hotbed of revolutionary republicanism, but the working-class areas were sent outside city limits and gentrified a lot under the Second Empire.

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With a stark division between East and West, especially for the Linke, CDU and FDP.

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Though Piraeus is a left-wing stronghold and one of KKE's best areas.

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Note that Rome elected a fascist mayor last year and the major right-wing movement in Rome was the post-fascist AN. There remains a strong fascist movement in the area due to the legacy of fascism on the city (the positive effects in the local psyche of the 'new Roman Empire' crappola and the like).

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Amsterdam is like a complete opposite of the country. I mean, in the Euros, the top 2 were D66 and GroenLinks, while the CDA placed last, behind the Animals Party...

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Today, yes, but I think the province voted PSOE in the past and voting on the right is a more recent phenomena. Could be wrong.

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Well, the GLA includes very diverse areas demographically: social liberal areas, wealthyland, immigrant-country, working-class areas, trendy areas, racist whiteflight land and so forth.

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Nope. PS 29%, Greens 23%, SVP 17%, FDP 16%, CVP 6%, EVP 4%, ASV 2%, SD 1%, UDF 1%...

Left (PS, Greens, EVP) means 56%, and is still 52% without the Christian socialist EVP.

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Partly that, but also demographic factors like the fact that European city cores, like capitals, include a lot of wealthy areas and most remain more 'white' unlike American inner cities. American cities, with some exceptions, tend to be more ethnically diverse, but also poorer than American cities.

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Not quite true, that. Atleast in France, it's not. Paris' commuter belt extends very far. Rennes' commuter belt is like half of the department. Lyon suburbs now extend into northern Ardèche.

A general note is that, except for Rome and parts of London, the moderate right (meaning non-fascist) does best, social conservatives (hinthint) poll sh**t, Greenies poll extremely well (often case, their nationwide best or so), social liberals/hippie parties/New Left also poll quite well, and I may be mistaken (and in some cases it isn't true), but the left-wing vote is middle-class and less working-class (except in certain areas of some cities).

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That may be true in terms of the Fascist tend to beat the OVP, although the combined right vote is usually a full 10% below the national average and in the last election almost 60% voted for parties on the left.

Remains important to point that out, still.

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Like the Cities of London and Westminster, or whatever that tiny parcel of land right in the core is called.

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Well, yeah, Geneva is Geneva. Zurich, Geneva, Bern all voted PS, albeit at varying levels. And the Greenies are very strong.

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Rural-urban divides aren't important in every European country like they are in Europe. The French PS historical strongholds are rural, the PCF still has a rural rump vote, the Italian left is strong even in select rural areas, the PCI polled well in rural areas, the PvdA polls well in rural areas near the German border, the SPD in Germany polls well in certain rural areas, quite often the Scandinavian rural areas are more left-wing than cities and suburbs. Social issues are much less important in Europe, so there isn't a universal strict rural-urban divide as there is in the US, where there are only few exceptions to the rule.

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That's cause they're very socially liberal. Those types wouldn't vote for the right in most European countries.