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« Reply #650 on: December 12, 2017, 03:08:28 PM »


That's fully scary and chilling of a title.
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« Reply #651 on: December 12, 2017, 04:32:10 PM »

1968: It Can Happen Here



37 EV: Sen. George McGovern (D-SD)/Sen. Ed Muskie (D-ME) - 27.66%
210 EV: Gov. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Gov. George Romney (R-MI) - 30.60%
291 EV: Gov. George Wallace (I-AL)/Gen. Curtis LeMay (R-CA) - 41.49%

'68 is just as chaotic as IRL, but things are compounded by a huge economic crisis. Nixon sits out the race; McGovern is nominated due to a discredited and disorganized Democratic establishment. The result is a perfect storm that allows Wallace to easily sweep the South against two horrible fits for it, and eke out a narrow EC victory by consolidating enough support from western conservatives and northern white ethnics.
The fact that this didn't happen IRL  is a good argument to back up the idea that we aren't living in the worst possible timeline.
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« Reply #652 on: December 12, 2017, 11:56:41 PM »


Kirsten Gillibrand and Doug Jones (Democratic) 473 electors, 52% votes
Donald Trump and Ryan Zinke (Republican) 52 electors, 28% votes
Mitt Romney and Jeff Flake (Independent) 13 electors, 19% votes
Others (Various) 0 electors, 1% votes
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« Reply #653 on: December 13, 2017, 12:40:31 PM »

The 2020 Election in The World Turned Upside Down

President Donald Trump/Secretary of State Michael Pence: 36.09%, 476 electoral votes.
Senator Mitt Romney/Vice President Tim Kaine: 31.90%, 62 electoral votes
Senator Elizabeth Warren/Senator Tammy Baldwin: 32.02%, 0 electoral votes
Anybody want to guess what happened here?


In 2016, the electoral college is tied. The Republican House selects Trump, the Democratic Senate selects Kaine. Trump chooses his running mate as Secretary of State as compensation. In 2020, Senator Mitt Romney declares an independent campaign and is joined by the Vice President, who adds an even higher profile to the ticket. The dems nominate Progressives Warren and Baldwin, who alienate many moderates who go for Romney. Many independents and moderate Republicans vote for Romney as well (though more dems than reps) and it results in a three-way split, with Trump gathering his loyal base, as well as most evangelicals and strong conservatives, resulting in a weak plurality but a huge electoral college victory.
Obviously though, you way underestimated the democrats. Trump would never win D.C. or Massachussetts in this scenario, and Warren would likely win the pacific coast, Hawaii and most of the northeast at the very least.
The 20% states signed onto the NPVIC, and so gave their electoral votes to Trump because he won the national popular vote, even though Warren won many of them.
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« Reply #654 on: December 13, 2017, 01:42:43 PM »



Nov. 3, 2020
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand/Gov. John Bel Edwards (D-NY/MO)- 343 EVs
President Donald J. Trump/Vice President Mike Pence (R-NY/IN)- 195 EVs
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« Reply #655 on: December 13, 2017, 01:43:59 PM »



Nov. 3, 2020
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand/Gov. John Bel Edwards (D-NY/MO)- 343 EVs
President Donald J. Trump/Vice President Mike Pence (R-NY/IN)- 195 EVs
North Carolina?!
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« Reply #656 on: December 13, 2017, 02:09:00 PM »



Nov. 3, 2020
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand/Gov. John Bel Edwards (D-NY/MO)- 343 EVs
President Donald J. Trump/Vice President Mike Pence (R-NY/IN)- 195 EVs
North Carolina?!

sh**t, I forgot to change the color over. My bad, NC should have gone red.
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« Reply #657 on: December 13, 2017, 02:14:35 PM »



Nov. 3, 2020
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand/Gov. John Bel Edwards (D-NY/MO)- 343 EVs
President Donald J. Trump/Vice President Mike Pence (R-NY/IN)- 195 EVs

MO? Don't you mean LA?
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« Reply #658 on: December 13, 2017, 04:42:13 PM »


since no one guessed this correctly, I will tell:

this is the states where candidates can win congressional primary elections with a plurality, and states where it triggers a primary runoff.
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« Reply #659 on: December 13, 2017, 04:53:05 PM »

Since this had to be done...



Doug Jones/Kamala Harris - 56% Popular Vote - 435 Electoral Votes
Donald Trump/Mike Pence - 42% Popular Vote - 103 Electoral Votes
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« Reply #660 on: December 14, 2017, 01:29:05 PM »

Senate, 2032

Democrats (Maj Ldr Michael Bennet) - 59 seats (–1)
Republicans (Min Ldr John Thune) - 30 seats (no change)
Independents who caucus with Democrats - 2 seats (no change)
Independents who caucus with Republicans - 1 (+1)

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« Reply #661 on: December 14, 2017, 04:59:25 PM »
« Edited: December 14, 2017, 05:02:16 PM by Solid4096 »

2018 Senate Elections delivers Democrats a narrow majority due to Trump being unpopular.



Democrat: 51 (+2)
Republican: 49 (-2)

2020 Presidential Election results in Kirsten Gillibrand winning in a near-landslide, more Democrat gains in Senate.



Democrat: 56 (+5)
Republican: 44 (-5)



Gillibrand/Merkley: 399
Trump/Pence: 139

2022 Senate Elections give Democrats more gains, as Gillibrand manages to remain popular.



Democrat: 61 (+5)
Republican: 39 (-5)
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« Reply #662 on: December 16, 2017, 12:53:05 AM »

Sun Never Sets



Government
Conservative Party - 2514 seats
Constructive Regionalists - 511 seats

Most Loyal Opposition
Labour Party - 2383 seats

Other Opposition
Liberal Democrats - 315 seats
Other Regionalists - 160 seats
Greens - 166 seats
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« Reply #663 on: December 16, 2017, 02:42:05 AM »
« Edited: December 16, 2017, 02:58:27 AM by L.D. Smith, Aggie! It's Real Expenses Again »

Every Election from 1960 with the Popular Vote Swapped

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1968




1972

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« Reply #664 on: December 16, 2017, 02:46:07 AM »

If my exes were all running for President:



Destiny never really seemed interested in politics and I'm not exactly sure which way she leaned, although I know she was against right-wing approaches to immigration.
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« Reply #665 on: December 16, 2017, 11:13:59 AM »
« Edited: December 16, 2017, 11:50:58 AM by L.D. Smith, Aggie! It's Real Expenses Again »

Part II: PV Swap

1976



1980



1984



1988

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« Reply #666 on: December 16, 2017, 02:13:41 PM »

How did you calculate this?
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« Reply #667 on: December 16, 2017, 04:03:44 PM »

That 1988 map is so interesting. Also, I love the "if my exes ran" thing!
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« Reply #668 on: December 16, 2017, 04:07:25 PM »

That 1988 map is so interesting. Also, I love the "if my exes ran" thing!
Thanks, I thought it was a really interesting idea that I haven't really seen done before. of course, with our two-party system I highly doubt 5 different candidates would all win at least one state, but it's fun to think about.
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« Reply #669 on: December 16, 2017, 04:13:18 PM »

The Greitens Era



Gov. Eric Greitens (R-MO)/Sen. Jack Ciattarelli (R-NJ)-364 EV/55.5%
Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA)/Gov. Jon Ossoff (D-GA)-174 EV/45.3%

Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens wins the 2024 Republican presidential nomination after Vice President Mike Pence decides not to run for president, running for Senate instead to challenge Sen. Joe Donnelly (D-IN). He picks moderate Republican Jack Ciattarelli of New Jersey as his vice presidential running mate to appeal to moderate and Independent voters.  

Meanwhile, California Sen. Kamala Harris wins the 2024 Democratic presidential nomination, beating Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown in a bitter ethnic/racial battle. She picks Georgia Gov. Jon Ossoff to appeal to moderate voters.
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« Reply #670 on: December 16, 2017, 04:22:47 PM »

The Greitens Era



Gov. Eric Greitens (R-MO)/Sen. Jack Ciattarelli (R-NJ)-364 EV/55.5%
Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA)/Gov. Jon Ossoff (D-GA)-174 EV/45.3%

Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens wins the 2024 Republican presidential nomination after Vice President Mike Pence decides not to run for president, running for Senate instead to challenge Sen. Joe Donnelly (D-IN). He picks moderate Republican Jack Ciattarelli of New Jersey as his vice presidential running mate to appeal to moderate and Independent voters.  

Meanwhile, California Sen. Kamala Harris wins the 2024 Democratic presidential nomination, beating Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown in a bitter ethnic/racial battle. She picks Georgia Gov. Jon Ossoff to appeal to moderate voters.
Pence-lite winning in a near landslide after 8 years of Trump?!
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« Reply #671 on: December 16, 2017, 04:31:07 PM »

The Greitens Era



Gov. Eric Greitens (R-MO)/Sen. Jack Ciattarelli (R-NJ)-364 EV/55.5%
Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA)/Gov. Jon Ossoff (D-GA)-174 EV/45.3%

Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens wins the 2024 Republican presidential nomination after Vice President Mike Pence decides not to run for president, running for Senate instead to challenge Sen. Joe Donnelly (D-IN). He picks moderate Republican Jack Ciattarelli of New Jersey as his vice presidential running mate to appeal to moderate and Independent voters.  

Meanwhile, California Sen. Kamala Harris wins the 2024 Democratic presidential nomination, beating Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown in a bitter ethnic/racial battle. She picks Georgia Gov. Jon Ossoff to appeal to moderate voters.
Pence-lite winning in a near landslide after 8 years of Trump?!

The economy is roaring by 2024, and Kamala Harris ran a bad presidential campaign.
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« Reply #672 on: December 16, 2017, 04:31:24 PM »

The Greitens Era



Gov. Eric Greitens (R-MO)/Sen. Jack Ciattarelli (R-NJ)-364 EV/55.5%
Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA)/Gov. Jon Ossoff (D-GA)-174 EV/45.3%

Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens wins the 2024 Republican presidential nomination after Vice President Mike Pence decides not to run for president, running for Senate instead to challenge Sen. Joe Donnelly (D-IN). He picks moderate Republican Jack Ciattarelli of New Jersey as his vice presidential running mate to appeal to moderate and Independent voters.  

Meanwhile, California Sen. Kamala Harris wins the 2024 Democratic presidential nomination, beating Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown in a bitter ethnic/racial battle. She picks Georgia Gov. Jon Ossoff to appeal to moderate voters.
No way Massachusetts goes R.
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« Reply #673 on: December 16, 2017, 04:32:53 PM »

The Greitens Era



Gov. Eric Greitens (R-MO)/Sen. Jack Ciattarelli (R-NJ)-364 EV/55.5%
Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA)/Gov. Jon Ossoff (D-GA)-174 EV/45.3%

Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens wins the 2024 Republican presidential nomination after Vice President Mike Pence decides not to run for president, running for Senate instead to challenge Sen. Joe Donnelly (D-IN). He picks moderate Republican Jack Ciattarelli of New Jersey as his vice presidential running mate to appeal to moderate and Independent voters.  

Meanwhile, California Sen. Kamala Harris wins the 2024 Democratic presidential nomination, beating Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown in a bitter ethnic/racial battle. She picks Georgia Gov. Jon Ossoff to appeal to moderate voters.
Pence-lite winning in a near landslide after 8 years of Trump?!

The economy is roaring by 2024, and Kamala Harris ran a bad presidential campaign.
If Greitens is going to win in 2024, I would think it'd have to be narrower than this, even with a great economy and Harris running a crappy campaign.
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« Reply #674 on: December 16, 2017, 05:02:24 PM »

The American Empire

In this scenario, U.S. fully colonizes Liberia, gets more possessions after Spanish-American War, annexes several Central American countries during 1910s and 1920s, gains some former Japanese areas after WWII, and fully invades and annexes Iraq following the Gulf War. Also, during the 1800s the Canadian provinces vote to join U.S. instead of confederation, and Mexico is invaded and annexed during the Mexican Revolution.

There are plenty of states: the 50 today, plus D.C., Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Jamaica, Cuba, the Bahamas & Bermuda (as one), Trinidad and Tobago, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, all 10 provinces of Canada plus the 3 territories as one, Greenland, the 31 states of Mexico plus the Federal District, Taiwan, Papua New Guinea, the Solomon Islands, and Guam, NMI, Palau, Micronesia, Nauru, Kiribati, and Marshall Islands as the State of Micronesia. There are 13 states in the Philippines. Iraq has been administered as two territories (Iraq and Kurdistan), but an amendment passed in 2004 gave each territory two Senators and four Representatives. Liberia, Equatorial Guinea, and Western Sahara are states, for a total of 126.

There are 256 Senators and 1,008 Representatives.

The total population is 711,320,480.

Each group besides the FNP is a coalition of regional parties.

Senate

Majority
Republican Alliance – 121 (Center-left)
People's Bloc – 55 (Populist)

Minority
Democratic Alliance – 62 (Center-right)

Other
Socialist Bloc – 10 (Democratic socialist)
Coalition of Secessionists and Regionalists – 5 (Pro-independence)
Free National Party – 1 (Right-wing populist)

House

Majority
Republican Alliance – 440
People's Bloc – 133

Minority
Democratic Alliance – 259

Other
Coalition of Secessionists and Regionalists – 76
Free National Party – 54
Socialist Bloc – 46
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