What if the USA had a 10-party system?

[AltWorlder]

J.J. McCullough, a Canadian political cartoonist of Filibuster Cartoons, has a YouTube channel about politics. Here's a video about what if the U.S. had a parliamentary system with a low threshold for party entry similar to Israel's, and it resulted in a ten-party system:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27qtRp5-XVE

Pretty well-argued, though I'd quibble on some of the parties he's created. What do you think? If there were 8-15 parties in a U.S. Parliament, who would be in it?

[Intell]

Interesting if the US was a parliamentary system, I believe it would be like this;

Republican Party (Economically & Socially Center-Right)


Traditional centre-right economic party of the United States, pro-free market, free trade and anti-welfare but ok with some social services. Socially conservative but accepting of social issues when liberal argument has won out.

Democratic Party (Ecomomcially Right, Socially Right)

Your right-wing anti-government tea party right of the United States. Primary base is in the south of the United States and very socially conservative and opposed racial integration in the 50's and 60's.

Farmer-Labor Party (Economically & Socially Center-Left)


Politcal Party of the centre-left, supportive of unions, social welfare state and progressive goals. Embraced a third way turn as most centre-left parties would have.

Liberal Party (Economically Center, Socially Center-Left

I would imagine this party would have formed formed dissident republicans who would've opposed the alliance that the republicans made with the democrats to oppose the farmer labor presidency of FDR in the 1930's. Supportive of social liberalism and a welfare state but also free-trade, decreased regulation and a broadly free-market economy.

Socialist Party (Economically Left, Socially Left)


Formed by the left-wing of the labour movement who wanted a socialist society but opposed to a communist revolution. Opposed to the farmer-labor party's acceptance of capitalism and business; and later on the farmer-labor's support of NATO. Always a fringe movement in US politics, that has however been gaining in popularity as of late due to young voters.

Green Party (Economically Centre-Left, Socially Left)

A party of hipsters and urban progressives. Those who want a progressive alternative to the farmer-labor party that pushes for socially progressive goals but are not to left of the farmer-labor party on economic issues.

American Nationalist Union (Economically Centre, Socially Right)


Your MAGA great again populist party that are broadly economic centrist, support social services for 'those that deserve it', support higher taxes for corporations and support American industries staying in America. Not focused on social issues as the Democratic Party but very focused on immigration and strongly both anti-legal and illegal immigration

Liberty Alliance (Economically Right, Socially Libertarian)

Your libertarian party, nuff said.


I don't think their will specific ethnic parties and most ethnic minorities will vote overwhelmingly for the farmer-labor party, with the exception of cuban Americans who will vote for the Republican Party and Asian Americans who would be split.


With a parliamentary system I would imagine that a populist party of the like of James.B Weaver would remain as a third party and the Democratic Party would still be a business orientated free trade party, and the Republican Party would be a business orientated protectionist party. This would result in the growth of a populist farmers orientated party, which would then merge with labor groups to form the farmer-labor party (as what happened in Minnesota). The great depression would result in the victory of the farmer-labor party to the panic of the economic and political establishment, resulting in the democratic and Republican Party forming partnerships to oppose the farmer-labor party. Liberal Republicans obviously oppose this and split forming the liberal party. The Republican Party becomes the prime force of opposition to the farmer-labor party and meaning the Democratic Party loses it's support to the Republican Party and loses it's non-southern base meaning it becomes a largely southern party.

[AltWorlder]

The video lays out it as such:



Republicans/Democrats: large centrist right and left parties appealing to the white middle class, the party establishment

Socialist Party: like the SPA, would be founded in the beginning of the 20th century

African American Party: set up by and for black Americans around the time the NAACP was founded. Uncertain whether more left or right compared to current mainstream Democrats

Latino Party: centered around immigration issues, worker's rights, and Spanish-language usage.

Christian Party: social conservative- anti-abortion/expansion of LGBT rights, religious exemptions, federal subsidies for Christian schools, anti-church-state separation. Founded during '80s Evangelical Protestant movement. Potentially comprises conservative Catholics and Mormons

Catholic Party: anti-abortion, moderate on everything else. Possibly moribund as most conservative Catholics would just vote for the Christian Party on abortion and for anyone else on other issues

Far Right Party: secular but with very extreme views on guns, immigration, and the Federal Reserve. Borderline white nationalist, catering to conspiracy theorists, extremely controversial

Trendy Centrist Party: founded by trendy billionaire to appeal to well-educated upper middle class in big cities, technocratic pragmatism

Green Party: anti-climate change, but would be on the brink of irrelevancy as mainstream Democrats, Socialists, and Trendy Centrists are also pro-environment

The video also muses about the viability, and concludes against it, of an Illegal Immigration-centered party and a Mormon party.

Bear in mind that while J. J. McCullough is a political cartoonist and blogger, he is also Canadian so some of the more nuances of American politics might be lost on him.

For instance, I'm not sure if Hispanics are as united in their interests to found their own party. Next, I think aside from the Trendy Centrist technocrats who are merely neoliberal, there would likely be a Libertarian party that chips into both the mainstream Republicans and more moderate members of the Far Right. Finally, the Catholic party is simply too niche to exist.

More graphics:



Arbitrary Polling- 3% threshold



Arbitrary Seats of "super-divided" Congress



Coalitions



Party Leaders

[AltWorlder]

Two more things I forgot about the above- ironically while the video author is Canadian, he didn't consider regionalist parties. While Southern Independence is not a real thing, one wonders if a PR system would lead to the Dixiecrats surviving to the present day- though that would drastically change the nature of the Republican Party. Still, I'm wondering if modern regionalist parties could exist in the U.S.- something like Calexit would be too limited and specific, but maybe some sort of Rural party which exists as an alliance of Southern governors to represent their regional interests? It would be a far cry from the Bloc Quebecois, but it still represents an identity.

The other thing is I can't recognize the party leaders besides Biden, Bush, Sanders, Castro, and Inslee. Who are the others?

I also wonder what DA and PNC stand for.

[AltWorlder]

Interesting if the US was a parliamentary system, I believe it would be like this;

Pretty great plan. Interesting you did the Democrats remain Dixiecrats approach.

Farmer-Labor Party (Economically & Socially Center-Right)


Politcal Party of the centre-left, supportive of unions, social welfare state and progressive goals. Embraced a third way turn as most centre-left parties would have.

I think at the top header you mean center-left.

Liberal Party (Economically Center, Socially Center-Left

I would imagine this party would have formed formed dissident republicans who would've opposed the alliance that the republicans made with the democrats to oppose the farmer labor presidency of FDR in the 1930's. Supportive of social liberalism and a welfare state but also free-trade, decreased regulation and a broadly free-market economy.

As in the video the author is Canadian and reveals some of his biases, here's where you reveal your Aussie bias - I think Liberalism in America would remain the 20th century FDR-LBJ-Clinton-Obama definition, and not the Euro/ANZUK meaning. So naming it Liberal is not quite American. Also I can see it as moderate Rockefeller Republicans splitting off from the mainstream Republicans over time, or triangulating neoliberals splitting from Farmer-Labor during the '90s. Perhaps "Whig" is a better name, though historically they were pro-protective tariff so maybe not.

Green Party (Economically Centre-Left, Socially Left)

A party of hipsters and urban progressives. Those who want a progressive alternative to the farmer-labor party that pushes for socially progressive goals but are not to left of the farmer-labor party on economic issues.

I think the Greens would be more economically left, but through their uniquely ecological-centered paradigm rather than socialism.

American Nationalist Union (Economically Centre, Socially Right)


Your MAGA great again populist party that are broadly economic centrist, support social services for 'those that deserve it', support higher taxes for corporations and support American industries staying in America. Not focused on social issues as the Democratic Party but very focused on immigration and strongly both anti-legal and illegal immigration

I think it's economically centrist in that it's both protectionist and pro-welfare state for a, certain majority, but at the same time very anti-socialism and anti-big government at least in rhetoric.

the Democratic Party would still be a business orientated free trade party, and the Republican Party would be a business orientated protectionist party.

Ooh, good wedge to distinguish them with.

[Intell]

Interesting if the US was a parliamentary system, I believe it would be like this;

Pretty great plan. Interesting you did the Democrats remain Dixiecrats approach.

Farmer-Labor Party (Economically & Socially Center-Right)


Politcal Party of the centre-left, supportive of unions, social welfare state and progressive goals. Embraced a third way turn as most centre-left parties would have.

I think at the top header you mean center-left.

Liberal Party (Economically Center, Socially Center-Left

I would imagine this party would have formed formed dissident republicans who would've opposed the alliance that the republicans made with the democrats to oppose the farmer labor presidency of FDR in the 1930's. Supportive of social liberalism and a welfare state but also free-trade, decreased regulation and a broadly free-market economy.

As in the video the author is Canadian and reveals some of his biases, here's where you reveal your Aussie bias - I think Liberalism in America would remain the 20th century FDR-LBJ-Clinton-Obama definition, and not the Euro/ANZUK meaning. So naming it Liberal is not quite American. Also I can see it as moderate Rockefeller Republicans splitting off from the mainstream Republicans over time, or triangulating neoliberals splitting from Farmer-Labor during the '90s. Perhaps "Whig" is a better name, though historically they were pro-protective tariff so maybe not.

Green Party (Economically Centre-Left, Socially Left)

A party of hipsters and urban progressives. Those who want a progressive alternative to the farmer-labor party that pushes for socially progressive goals but are not to left of the farmer-labor party on economic issues.

I think the Greens would be more economically left, but through their uniquely ecological-centered paradigm rather than socialism.

American Nationalist Union (Economically Centre, Socially Right)


Your MAGA great again populist party that are broadly economic centrist, support social services for 'those that deserve it', support higher taxes for corporations and support American industries staying in America. Not focused on social issues as the Democratic Party but very focused on immigration and strongly both anti-legal and illegal immigration

I think it's economically centrist in that it's both protectionist and pro-welfare state for a, certain majority, but at the same time very anti-socialism and anti-big government at least in rhetoric.

the Democratic Party would still be a business orientated free trade party, and the Republican Party would be a business orientated protectionist party.

Ooh, good wedge to distinguish them with.

Yea I mean centre-left.

I think the liberal party as having the name 'liberal' makes sense as that is what it the case in Canada as well; the liberal party is the party of social liberals that are economically centre-left to centre-right in contrast to the left-wing economics of the NDP (farmer-labor party) and the social conservatism/extreme capitalism of the Conservative party (republican/democratic party).

Also I mean the Republican Party would have embraced free trade sometime after WWII; but before that free trade would be a distinguishing factor between the parties, as well as the Democratic Party being a 'culturally' southern party.

The reason why I think the Green Party would be an economically centre-left rather than left party is that the Green Party becomes the socially liberal version of the mainstream centre-left party when there is a socialist party in the mix. Germany, Norway, Ireland, Finland etc.

[Grassroots]

There are so many better choices for the far right party than Ben Garrison.