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« on: September 22, 2012, 03:50:26 PM »

I don't care. The Bible tells me the Earth is 6,000 years old. And I'm not related to apes. Period.

Correction:  It doesn't say the Earth is 6,000 years old just that man is 6,000-7,000 years old.  We are not monkeys.  The creation story says "the evening and the morning were the first day", but it doesn't necessarily mean 24 literal hours as we know today.  Each "day" could be thousands or even millions of years.  For the age of man, if you start at Abram (Genesis 11) and work backward, you will get somewhere between 6,000-7,000 years.  Abraham was 2,000 years before Christ who was 2,000 years before the present day.  So, when you start with Abraham, you're starting at roughly 4,000 years ago.

     Nobody claims that humans are monkeys, except in a cladistic sense. Humans are apes, and there is no logical basis for denying that without denying other predictions of Darwin's theory of evolution, such as the experiment outlined in the initial post of this topic.
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2012, 03:24:33 AM »
« Edited: September 24, 2012, 03:30:36 AM by Emperor PiT »

Apes are monkeys.
The very fact of having these two different words makes English appear ridiculous.

     There are some pretty important physiological differences between monkeys and apes. The problem is that humans are categorized as apes, despite deviating from the ape template in a couple important fashions; the most troubling one being that we have a cylindrical ribcage like that of monkeys, as opposed to the conical ribcage that is characteristic of the apes.
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2012, 09:58:21 PM »

     I don't think the heliocentrism/geocentrism comparison is a good one. Geocentrism is scientifically much more valid than creationism could ever hope to be.
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2012, 01:36:51 AM »

Because evolution can be directly observed like this, one of the most common "scientific" arguments is that microevolution and macroevolution are completely separate, and that the former exists while the latter does not.

This is the reason why this story will not convince any YECs.

     The YECs have made up their minds already. Convincing them of anything is just not possible. Just rebut their arguments and let more open minds see who is more logical here.
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