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« Reply #500 on: July 26, 2018, 11:06:23 AM »

The Generic Ballot question in the Marist polls of MI, WI and MN are actually different to what was posted above ...

That's because the poll includes 2 different questions ("what do you want" and "how will you vote"):

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45-36 A Congress controlled by Democrats (+9)

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49-36 Democrat (+13)

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In WI, it is 47-39 (preference) and 51-38 (actual vote).

In MN, it is 48-36 (preference) and 48-37 (actual vote).
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« Reply #501 on: July 26, 2018, 11:09:37 AM »

The Quinnipiac poll has college educated whites at D+13 and non college whites at R+11.

Nobody tell RINO Tom.


Curious: Is the education gap expanding or shrinking according to this?
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« Reply #502 on: July 26, 2018, 02:40:38 PM »

The Quinnipiac poll has college educated whites at D+13 and non college whites at R+11.

Nobody tell RINO Tom.


Curious: Is the education gap expanding or shrinking according to this?

I believe exit polls say Clinton narrowly lost college educated whites in 2016, so it's expanded.
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« Reply #503 on: July 26, 2018, 02:49:24 PM »

The Quinnipiac poll has college educated whites at D+13 and non college whites at R+11.

Nobody tell RINO Tom.


Curious: Is the education gap expanding or shrinking according to this?

I believe exit polls say Clinton narrowly lost college educated whites in 2016, so it's expanded.

That is what the exit polls said, but I remember reading this article that they could have been way off.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/27/upshot/trump-losing-college-educated-whites-he-never-won-them-in-the-first-place.html
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« Reply #504 on: July 27, 2018, 12:21:05 AM »
« Edited: July 27, 2018, 12:29:47 AM by Kodak »

The Quinnipiac poll has college educated whites at D+13 and non college whites at R+11.

Nobody tell RINO Tom.


Curious: Is the education gap expanding or shrinking according to this?

I believe exit polls say Clinton narrowly lost college educated whites in 2016, so it's expanded.

That is what the exit polls said, but I remember reading this article that they could have been way off.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/27/upshot/trump-losing-college-educated-whites-he-never-won-them-in-the-first-place.html

See this thread:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=290720.0

According to Reagente's calculations, Non-Hispanic white voters with a degree voted D+0.2 and voters with no degree voted R+34. The exit polls claimed they voted R+4 and R+39, respectively. Either way, there was a roughly 35-point gap between the two groups. According to the Marist poll, the gap has narrowed to 24 points, which is a big improvement from 2016 but still larger than it was in the 2012 exit poll.
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« Reply #505 on: July 28, 2018, 07:37:22 PM »

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« Reply #506 on: July 28, 2018, 07:38:43 PM »



a poll which also had Rauner down just 1 point. lol
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« Reply #507 on: July 28, 2018, 07:38:55 PM »



Victory Research is a new pollster whose only record is hugely missing the IL Dem Gov primary. I wouldn't trust them.
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« Reply #508 on: July 28, 2018, 10:34:01 PM »
« Edited: July 29, 2018, 05:19:47 AM by Hindsight is 2020 »

Apparently GOP insiders are seeing blue wave like numbers in their polling https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/100-days-from-the-elections-dems-hold-upper-hand-in-fight-for-house-control
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« Reply #509 on: July 29, 2018, 02:01:08 AM »


This article seemed like it was designed by scientists to get me as giddy as possible.

The only thing that annoys me is the immediate thought after reading that of how disadvantaged Democrats are in the states that even a large wave will likely only lead to divided state governments in maybe a dozen states, with a few trifectas in places that we should have consolidated power in a while ago. Not to mention that we'll probably still have Republican Governors in a number of blue states.

Getting to a place where Democrats are at least at parity with Republicans in the states or more on a regular basis, and not just after waves, is probably going to take decades, absent a massive reshuffling of the political landscape.
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« Reply #510 on: July 29, 2018, 04:44:30 AM »


This article seemed like it was designed by scientists to get me as giddy as possible.

The only thing that annoys me is the immediate thought after reading that of how disadvantaged Democrats are in the states that even a large wave will likely only lead to divided state governments in maybe a dozen states, with a few trifectas in places that we should have consolidated power in a while ago. Not to mention that we'll probably still have Republican Governors in a number of blue states.

Getting to a place where Democrats are at least at parity with Republicans in the states or more on a regular basis, and not just after waves, is probably going to take decades, absent a massive reshuffling of the political landscape.
It’ll require Democrats being competitive in rural areas again honestly.
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« Reply #511 on: July 29, 2018, 08:49:08 AM »


This article seemed like it was designed by scientists to get me as giddy as possible.

The only thing that annoys me is the immediate thought after reading that of how disadvantaged Democrats are in the states that even a large wave will likely only lead to divided state governments in maybe a dozen states, with a few trifectas in places that we should have consolidated power in a while ago. Not to mention that we'll probably still have Republican Governors in a number of blue states.

Getting to a place where Democrats are at least at parity with Republicans in the states or more on a regular basis, and not just after waves, is probably going to take decades, absent a massive reshuffling of the political landscape.
It’ll require Democrats being competitive in rural areas again honestly.

Suburbs will do. See Virginia.
Virginia is an execption, not a rule. Ohio/Wisconsin subs for example are still solidly Rep.
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« Reply #512 on: July 29, 2018, 01:46:32 PM »


This article seemed like it was designed by scientists to get me as giddy as possible.

The only thing that annoys me is the immediate thought after reading that of how disadvantaged Democrats are in the states that even a large wave will likely only lead to divided state governments in maybe a dozen states, with a few trifectas in places that we should have consolidated power in a while ago. Not to mention that we'll probably still have Republican Governors in a number of blue states.

Getting to a place where Democrats are at least at parity with Republicans in the states or more on a regular basis, and not just after waves, is probably going to take decades, absent a massive reshuffling of the political landscape.
It’ll require Democrats being competitive in rural areas again honestly.

Suburbs will do. See Virginia.
Virginia is an execption, not a rule. Ohio/Wisconsin subs for example are still solidly Rep.

If Ohio and Wisconsin's suburbs trend Dem, they'd vote Dem statewide too.   

Rural areas are just too small on their own, and getting smaller anyway.
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« Reply #513 on: July 29, 2018, 02:39:29 PM »

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« Reply #514 on: July 29, 2018, 09:09:16 PM »

CA-50:

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« Reply #515 on: July 29, 2018, 09:12:17 PM »

CA-50:



Those are terrible numbers for Hunter.
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« Reply #516 on: July 29, 2018, 09:18:32 PM »

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woah, these are terrible. If this is true, then the house is already in D hands.
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« Reply #517 on: July 29, 2018, 09:20:58 PM »

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woah, these are terrible. If this is true, then the house is already in D hands.

Simmer down a bit, you gotta also remember that Hunter has a scandal and plenty of skeletons come out of his closet since his last GE.
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« Reply #518 on: July 29, 2018, 10:37:43 PM »

Remember that internals are only ever released to promote a message that the campaign wants to be spread.
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« Reply #519 on: July 29, 2018, 10:56:00 PM »

CA-50:


woah, these are terrible. If this is true, then the house is already in D hands.

Simmer down a bit, you gotta also remember that Hunter has a scandal and plenty of skeletons come out of his closet since his last GE.
Thats why I prefaced it with "If this is true". I doubt this internal, but if it is close to the end result, as I said, the House will be D. TBH, Im having a hard time seeing the house not be D.
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« Reply #520 on: July 29, 2018, 10:58:10 PM »

Those numbers look good on their own. But it's not that impressive that Hunter is up 9 in a D internal(and over 50%), so he's probably Safe. This doesn't affect my view of the wider battle for the House at all.
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« Reply #521 on: July 30, 2018, 08:07:09 AM »

Those numbers look good on their own. But it's not that impressive that Hunter is up 9 in a D internal(and over 50%), so he's probably Safe. This doesn't affect my view of the wider battle for the House at all.

I suspect Hunter wins 55-45 or so in the end
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« Reply #522 on: July 30, 2018, 08:19:04 AM »

CNN has moved VA02 and VA07 into tossup. Apparently Stewart is really having a down ballot drag
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« Reply #523 on: July 30, 2018, 08:23:47 AM »

Likely R seems fair for CA-50.
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« Reply #524 on: July 30, 2018, 12:20:25 PM »

There's a pretty interesting interview with Dave Wasserman of Cook Political Report here:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/07/100-days-until-midterms-assessing-democrats-chances-for-taking-back-the-house.html

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