Gingrich's new book compares Democrats to Nazis and Communists

[Derek]

People compared Bush to Hitler and got away with it. I feel no sympathy for anyone who thinks Gingrich is extreme and if you look at the democrats today there really isn't much different between them and the communists from Russia in the mid 20th century. The nazis? I won't go that far but running Government Motors while it's still somewhat owned privately is a good start down that direction.

[Derek]

People compared Bush to Hitler and got away with it.

Dubya was a frontman for the much-more dangerous and insidious Karl Rove, who tried to exercise dictatorial power as Party Boss without being a dictator. 

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If someone talks and acts like an extremist, then one is likely an extremist.

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Now that is extreme and preposterous! You tell me where the Gulag-style camps are. You  name the equivalent of OGPU in America. You tell me how you could survive, let alone your cranky and derogatory stuff can be posted on the Web, if Barack Obama is the equivalent of Josef Stalin. You tell me where our President's picture is reaching parity with those of  George Washington and Abraham Lincoln.  You can explain how we have an opposition party that believes that it can win.   

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When the government owns a share in the enterprise it normally exercises powers that any owner would in the ratio of its ownership.

The camps are called public schools. The government has no business owning or running anything in the private sector. Newt Gingrich is not an extremist.

[Derek]

It's a shame someone so clearly intelligent has to be so intellectually dishonest.

Gingrich likes selling himself. This isn't surprising.

That's alot of politicians though.

[Derek]

The guy who blamed the murders of Susan Smith's children on the Democrats? This seems tame, lame, and cliched compared to his golden dayss of obfuscation.

Which guy? Oh that one? yea now I remember.

[Derek]

People compared Bush to Hitler and got away with it. I feel no sympathy for anyone who thinks Gingrich is extreme and if you look at the democrats today there really isn't much different between them and the communists from Russia in the mid 20th century. The nazis? I won't go that far but running Government Motors while it's still somewhat owned privately is a good start down that direction.

Do you actually believe all that???
Really, I consider myself to be a socialist and that anyone could mix up two ideologies as radically opposed as liberalism and socialism (or liberalism and fascism for that matter) is beyond me.
If someone who actually completed highschool would make such a comparison, it would be worrying enough. But when one of the most important spokesmen of the main opposition party in the most powerfull nation on earth starts to sell this kind of crap, it's just plain sickening and/or incredibly cynic.

You aren't taught about the dangers of socialism in school because it's run by the left and I'm not sure what you're getting at with that stupid comment. Liberalism as it is held today is socialism.

[Derek]

People compared Bush to Hitler and got away with it. I feel no sympathy for anyone who thinks Gingrich is extreme and if you look at the democrats today there really isn't much different between them and the communists from Russia in the mid 20th century. The nazis? I won't go that far but running Government Motors while it's still somewhat owned privately is a good start down that direction.

Do you actually believe all that???
Really, I consider myself to be a socialist and that anyone could mix up two ideologies as radically opposed as liberalism and socialism (or liberalism and fascism for that matter) is beyond me.
If someone who actually completed highschool would make such a comparison, it would be worrying enough. But when one of the most important spokesmen of the main opposition party in the most powerfull nation on earth starts to sell this kind of crap, it's just plain sickening and/or incredibly cynic.

You aren't taught about the dangers of socialism in school because it's run by the left and I'm not sure what you're getting at with that stupid comment. Liberalism as it is held today is socialism.

The Right controls  Big Business; the rest of us must either dodge our political beliefs, sell out, or find some other line of work. School teaching is one place in which one can get away with being an overt liberal. Besides, the temperament appropriate for teaching (a certain level of open-mindedness, an even temperament, and intellectual integrity) are compatible for teaching as they aren't in much of Big Business. 

Yes I hear your violin about your views not being accepted in the work place. The reason your views aren't welcomed at other jobs is because those jobs are real world oriented and not in a school that is close off from reality. Those who are successful tend to vote Republican and are conservative because they know how hard they had to work to get to where they're at today. I'm happy to see that we're finally getting text books that include BOTH SIDES to political issues.

[Derek]

Derek, it's typical for conservative die-hards like yourself to have a distaste for everything that's even vaguely reminiscent of intellectualism since your ideas, obviously, won't last for longer than 5 minutes under any (I repeat that 'ANY', and that includes theoretically thought-trough forms of conservativism and libertarianism) critical form of evaluation.
You say that I've been brainwashed in school by the prevailing liberal bias of teachers. I can guarantee you that most of the teachers I've had in highschool were well to my right on every single issue.
You claim to be directly in touch with something you call 'reality'. The problem is that if in this 'reality' of yours there indeed is no palpable difference between communism and fascismif  and Democrats really adhere to both these 'evils', and if Corporate enterprise really is a force for good in any thinkable circumstances whereas the state can only deliver oppression, than your view of 'reality' transcends forgiveable subjectivity and becomes a dangerous illusion. And this is an illusion you seem to share with many on the america hard-right and one that's eagerily exploited by Big Bussines.

Boy, those guys over at BP and Halliburton must pray to whatever gods they still hold valuable every day to beg that your lot won't start to properly read up on any subject whatsoever rather than blindly following the leaders they have provided you with.

I do not follow blindly and consider myself an intellectual. Intellectualism doesn't belong to one party. I'm tired of being called uneducated or unsophisticated simply because I trust my instinct to know what is what. I do not need a book or a reference to conclude that our government is out of control or know a good teacher when I see one. As for being lumped in with the "hard-right" I'll take that as a compliment because from my point of view that is an honor.

[Derek]

Derek, it's typical for conservative die-hards like yourself to have a distaste for everything that's even vaguely reminiscent of intellectualism since your ideas, obviously, won't last for longer than 5 minutes under any (I repeat that 'ANY', and that includes theoretically thought-trough forms of conservativism and libertarianism) critical form of evaluation.
You say that I've been brainwashed in school by the prevailing liberal bias of teachers. I can guarantee you that most of the teachers I've had in highschool were well to my right on every single issue.
You claim to be directly in touch with something you call 'reality'. The problem is that if in this 'reality' of yours there indeed is no palpable difference between communism and fascismif  and Democrats really adhere to both these 'evils', and if Corporate enterprise really is a force for good in any thinkable circumstances whereas the state can only deliver oppression, than your view of 'reality' transcends forgiveable subjectivity and becomes a dangerous illusion. And this is an illusion you seem to share with many on the america hard-right and one that's eagerily exploited by Big Bussines.

Boy, those guys over at BP and Halliburton must pray to whatever gods they still hold valuable every day to beg that your lot won't start to properly read up on any subject whatsoever rather than blindly following the leaders they have provided you with.

Derek is a troll, but if you're seriously asserting that conservative/libertarian thought won't hold up under critical evaluation, then you might want to consider opening a book for once, preferably one not written by Karl Marx.

Funnily enough the point I tried to make is that Derek's ideas made no sense even when looked at from a conservative/libertarian angle. I'm sorry that if I failed to make myself clear but I was certainly NOT implying that conservativism or libertarianism didn't make any sense.

I am my own individual with my own views so if I didn't make sense as a right winger, then it's because I'm not. DUH

[Derek]

I haven't read the book, so I don't know the full context, but that quote didn't mention "Democrats" - just saying.

Yep leave it to the left to replace words and read between the lines.

[Derek]

So he is a conservative and traditional man who views things that way. Get over it.