SUPERIMPERIALIST AMERICA ERA ONE: The Ascent to Domination (1844-1991)
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« Reply #100 on: April 21, 2004, 07:02:42 AM »

Why would TR live longer if the USA was super-imperialist?
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« Reply #101 on: April 21, 2004, 09:18:54 AM »

Remember the CCF Wink
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« Reply #102 on: April 21, 2004, 11:23:05 AM »

What about that little gray area in East Oklahoma? What's going on with that? A glitch?
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« Reply #103 on: April 21, 2004, 11:32:06 AM »

Good 'ol radical Minnesota!  I hope they vote for a third party again Smiley
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« Reply #104 on: April 21, 2004, 03:37:16 PM »

Yeah baby, progressive keep rule

And Hoover was still president, and won more electoral votes in 1932.
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« Reply #105 on: April 21, 2004, 04:05:14 PM »

Why would TR live longer if the USA was super-imperialist?
In this TL, he remained secretary of state {or secretary of the navy under Borden}, so he never had a chance to go on wild expeditions to the Amazon and get sick.

What about that little gray area in East Oklahoma? What's going on with that? A glitch?
Indian Territory.  In OTL, eastern Oklahoma remained Indian Territory for a while, while the western part became Oklahoma Territory.  Eventually, both were admitted as the state of Oklahoma, but not in this TL.

I will. . .  when exactly did it begin?
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« Reply #106 on: April 21, 2004, 05:09:11 PM »

Shouldn't New Foundland and British Honduras have become part of the US when it took over the British Empire or did I miss something?
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« Reply #107 on: April 21, 2004, 05:19:32 PM »

*continues worshiping Harry*
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« Reply #108 on: April 21, 2004, 05:21:54 PM »

Shouldn't New Foundland and British Honduras have become part of the US when it took over the British Empire or did I miss something?

British Honduras is part of the US, but only a territory, while Newfoundland went to Quebec {i'm not sure if i covered it in the text, but it's on the map}
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« Reply #109 on: April 22, 2004, 02:43:03 AM »

Cool.  Nice timeline btw, though maybe not that realistic.  Still a fun read though.  Smiley
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« Reply #110 on: April 22, 2004, 04:15:27 AM »


About 1932/3. It was caused by the Depression.
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« Reply #111 on: April 22, 2004, 04:02:20 PM »

Shouldn't New Foundland and British Honduras have become part of the US when it took over the British Empire or did I miss something?

You're still here??? Smiley

Hi, Immy. Smiley
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« Reply #112 on: April 23, 2004, 01:49:13 PM »

Shouldn't New Foundland and British Honduras have become part of the US when it took over the British Empire or did I miss something?

You're still here??? Smiley

Hi, Immy. Smiley

Yeah, I mostly lurk these days though, got too much stuff on my plate with school and such.  But just remember, I'm always watching. Wink
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« Reply #113 on: April 24, 2004, 12:46:08 AM »

Just wanted to add my "good job" comment.
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« Reply #114 on: April 24, 2004, 12:49:01 AM »

Why would TR live longer if the USA was super-imperialist?

In addition to what Veep said, maybe there is more medical advancements under imperialism and maybe just doing something that made him so happy aided his health.  I think it helped Thurmond. He loved his job.
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« Reply #115 on: April 24, 2004, 10:56:03 AM »

Shouldn't New Foundland and British Honduras have become part of the US when it took over the British Empire or did I miss something?

You're still here??? Smiley

Hi, Immy. Smiley

Yeah, I mostly lurk these days though, got too much stuff on my plate with school and such.  But just remember, I'm always watching. Wink

Well...you can still paricipat in the fantasy elections, you know. Smiley
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« Reply #116 on: April 24, 2004, 06:19:37 PM »

This is a great work here, wish it did happen! Then we would be the ultimate power, hooray!
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« Reply #117 on: April 25, 2004, 10:20:14 AM »

Sorry for not updating, I've been away.  Hopefully I can have another installment up by tomrrow
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« Reply #118 on: April 25, 2004, 06:35:37 PM »

Alright we get some more soon hopefully! I wonder how WWII is going to play out and into the late 20th century.
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« Reply #119 on: April 27, 2004, 06:23:34 PM »

1933 [continued]—Several small socialist parties in former Canada unite to form the CCF [Cooperative Commonwealth Federation].  In July the Socialist Party now under the leadership of Norman Thomas joins.  Thomas becomes chief of the CCF.  The CCF begins running campaigns in the Northern US for local and state offices, winning a few.  Adolf Hitler becomes chancellor of Germany.  America formally assumes ownership of Tristain de Cuhna, Ascension Island, and St. Helena.

1934—The New Deal progresses as in OTL.  TR, recalling the European Statehood Initiative lets all 12 European territories vote on whether to become states.  Despite some rioting, most Europeans have accepted US rule and their quality of life has improved.  Also, Hitler’s rise in Germany has scared them.  Finally, promiment activist Stanley Baldwin announces his intention to run for president in 1936.  The initiave passes in every European territory territory, and under the deal:
1. Twelve new states—Scotland, Wales, Northumbria, Wessex, Anglia, Mercia, France, Aquitaine, Burgundy, Cordoba, Castille, Leon, Aragon—will become states on July 4, 1935.
2. Anyone who doesn’t like this can freely leave the country.  Ascension Island, Tristain de Cuhna, and St. Helena are ceded to the Kingdoms of Bermuda, which changes its name to Atlantica.

1935—The CCF writes document known as the New Statehood Initiaive, calling for all US territories to become states by 1945.  The twelve European states enter the union on July 4.  Seeing that there are over 200 electoral votes to be found in Europe, Norman Thomas announces his candidacy.  To counter him, Stanley Baldwin declares his candidacy and begins campaigning across Britain.  TR announces we won’t run for another term in 1936.

1936—Franklin Roosevelt and John Garner receive the Progressive nomination.  Alf Landon and Stanley Baldwin have a fierce battle for the Conservative nomination, but in the end, Landon concedes to Baldwin in exchange for being the VP nominee.  The CCF, having now gained prominence in Upper North America [which will henceforth refer to central to western Canada and the US states which border it] and Europe, nominate Norman Thomas and George Nelson.  Huey Long, having escaped an assassination attempt the year before, runs an independent campaign with former MS governor Theodore Bilbo as his running mate.  All 4 candidates campaign strongly in their respective regions and all are expected to get some amount of electoral votes.  On election night:

Franklin Roosevelt is elected in a landslide, with most candidates only winning on a regional basis.

1937—FDR is inaugurated as the 34th president.
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« Reply #120 on: April 27, 2004, 08:06:49 PM »

Now there's a lot of states coming in at one time!

I wonder if Hitler will invade the US in former France, Spain and England and then get thrown back with overwhelming US manpower!

I also suspect that Siberia will become the next states due to the fact that Russia will probably play a big part in this TL too!
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« Reply #121 on: April 28, 2004, 05:17:09 PM »

Why is the more populous bit of australia not a state while there are two less populous states in australia?
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« Reply #122 on: May 01, 2004, 11:14:41 PM »

i will finish this at some point, but i'm gonna have to put it on hold for now because of AP exams.
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« Reply #123 on: May 02, 2004, 03:18:53 PM »

Darn, when should we expect to look for more of this excellant story?
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« Reply #124 on: May 02, 2004, 03:22:19 PM »

around May 20 or so I'll be done with school for the year and I can write a good bit to catch up.  Probably won't be able to work much until then though Sad
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