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WalterMitty
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« on: June 21, 2004, 10:50:06 AM »

it's time for me to talk about one of my favorite subjects--right to work laws.  it baffles me that there isnt a national right to work law.  i think unions and their servants in the congress (i.e. democrats) realize that unions wont survive if people actually have a *choice* on whether to join them or not.  therefore, they must rely on extortion techniques to keep their membership (and their bank acounts) up.

southern states realized long ago that if they were ever going to get out of the ditch they were in, they could only do so by attracting industry.  you cant spur economic development unless you have a right to work law.

  take a look at the great state of west virginia.  i love west virginia.  i hate the way the labor unions have ran that state into the ground.  if west va passed a right to work law, you wouldnt even be able to recognize the state in 5-10 years.  they would actually have some economic development, lower unemployment, and new people moving in, rather than natives moving out.
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2004, 10:59:33 AM »

Florida has a right to work law and we are seen as one of the most business friendly states in the USA. Our economy is booming and new businesses are popping up everywhere. Smiley Unions are NOT popular here.
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2004, 11:30:39 AM »

I believe that the decision to strike is a personal one, and I do not believe that anyone should be kept from a job that they wish to do. However, I would advise anyone who disagrees with a union's decision to strike to resign their membership, because I believe an organization is entitled to common goals, and I believe there is something just a little off-kilter about someone who will reap the benefits of an organization without aiding it in its time of need.
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2004, 11:39:04 AM »

I believe that the decision to strike is a personal one, and I do not believe that anyone should be kept from a job that they wish to do. However, I would advise anyone who disagrees with a union's decision to strike to resign their membership, because I believe an organization is entitled to common goals, and I believe there is something just a little off-kilter about someone who will reap the benefits of an organization without aiding it in its time of need.

Would you also agree that Union members should have a right to vote on where their union dues money would be going? In regards to political organizations, et. al.?
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2004, 11:55:58 AM »

Yes. I believe that such a bureaucracy should be open to the democratic scrutiny of its member
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2004, 12:00:21 PM »

Yes. I believe that such a bureaucracy should be open to the democratic scrutiny of its member

Smiley I agree. But I have a strong disagreement with Labor unions as I believe they were useful at one period in our history but are now obsolete due to the strength of OSHA and labor laws.
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2004, 12:15:07 PM »

Right to Work is Right to Scab isn't it? How enforced is it? Over most anti-union laws are paper laws only.
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2004, 12:18:12 PM »

If you wish to analogize it to dermatology, you are right.
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2004, 12:21:28 PM »

If you wish to analogize it to dermatology, you are right.

Ah. Thought so...
Little anecdote:
In parts of the Notts-Derby coalfield old pit towns have two pubs. One for the people who went on strike in 1984 and one for the Scabs.
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2004, 12:26:37 PM »

I guess the wounds run deep. If only that Arthur Scargill wasn't so ruthlessly ambitious and unconcerned with individual welfare, that needless strife could have been avoided.
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2004, 12:33:00 PM »

They should be repealed.  The government has no right to tax me $10 a year just so that I can work (not counting all the other taxes they take away.  Why is it the right of the government to determine whether I can work or not anyway?  It's not.  It is my right to determine whether those working in the government have the right to work or not.
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2004, 12:38:27 PM »

I guess the wounds run deep. If only that Arthur Scargill wasn't so ruthlessly ambitious and unconcerned with individual welfare, that needless strife could have been avoided.

If only the egomaniac had balloted...
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2004, 03:39:52 PM »

AZ is right to work as well.  Unions are incredibly stifled. Its great.
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2004, 04:11:00 PM »

VA is also right-to-work, thankfully. My mom refuses to join our local chapter of the NEA.
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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2004, 04:27:47 PM »

VA is also right-to-work, thankfully. My mom refuses to join our local chapter of the NEA.

NEA = A nice nazi party.
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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2004, 04:31:43 PM »

They should be repealed.  The government has no right to tax me $10 a year just so that I can work (not counting all the other taxes they take away.  Why is it the right of the government to determine whether I can work or not anyway?  It's not.  It is my right to determine whether those working in the government have the right to work or not.

Ha, I think that I totally misunderstood the point of this thread.  I thought this was about the "Right to Work Tax".  That's what we have in PA.
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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2004, 06:24:38 PM »

state's rights:  did you name your daughter after the state of virginia?  or did you just like the name virginia?
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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2004, 06:40:52 PM »

state's rights:  did you name your daughter after the state of virginia?  or did you just like the name virginia?

All my wifes' family as well as mine are from either MD or VA and we plan on moving back someday. We both love the state and the name. Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2004, 08:28:35 PM »

State right-to-scab laws should be banned by federal law. The end.
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« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2004, 08:32:01 PM »

VA is also right-to-work, thankfully. My mom refuses to join our local chapter of the NEA.

NEA = A nice nazi party.

Or, as Sec. of Education Rod Paige called it, "a terrorist organization." Boy did that get some of my Education major friends at school riled up.
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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2004, 08:57:48 PM »

State right-to-scab laws should be banned by federal law. The end.

Unions and their thug leaders should be banned. They have no right to take my money and put it where they like it.
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« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2004, 08:58:14 PM »

VA is also right-to-work, thankfully. My mom refuses to join our local chapter of the NEA.

NEA = A nice nazi party.

Or, as Sec. of Education Rod Paige called it, "a terrorist organization." Boy did that get some of my Education major friends at school riled up.

I agree 100%.
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« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2004, 09:01:43 PM »

Unions and their thug leaders should be banned.

Union-busting should be banned.

Any company that busts a union should have its board of directors jailed for life.
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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2004, 09:07:00 PM »

Unions and their thug leaders should be banned.

Union-busting should be banned.

Any company that busts a union should have its board of directors jailed for life.

Unions are one of the main reasons why American vehicles are overpriced as well as food, clothing on and on. Unions are obsolete.
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« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2004, 09:08:36 PM »


Anyone who would bust a union is obsolete.
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