MN Sen Recount (UPDATE: Stuart Smalley certified winner, lawsuit forthcoming)

[tokar]

OMG OPTICAL SCAN AND PAPER BALLOTS ARE SUUOOO AWEZOME CUZ WE CAN RECOUNT THEM! OMG!

Electronic voting is the only accurate and non-ridiculous way to vote in the 21st century.

After that documentary came out showing the problems with these scanning machines you would figure everyone would change over to electronic voting.

Although, with the "highly reliable" voting machines of Montgomery County, PA, my brother attempted to push the button for John McCain's name just to see if it would let him, and just like in The Simpsons episode, it didn't let him...didn't really matter considering he was voting for Obama anyway.

[Platypus]

Reject, Accept, Franken, Franken, Franken, Franken, Reject, Franken, Barkley, Barkley, Reject

[ChrisFromNJ]

Al Franken just gained another 10 votes. He is now only behind Coleman by 163 votes.

[Sam Spade]

Down to the last 6 counties to update in the incomplete list.

[Rococo4]

156.

oh boy

[Josh/Devilman88]

The Lizard People one made me laugh so hard.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

So, anyone want to put down odds on Franken winning?

[Sam Spade]

So, anyone want to put down odds on Franken winning?

Roughly about the same odds as me getting a blue avatar around the end of December and lessening my posting habits around this joint, I suppose...

[Alcon]

OMG OPTICAL SCAN AND PAPER BALLOTS ARE SUUOOO AWEZOME CUZ WE CAN RECOUNT THEM! OMG!

Electronic voting is the only accurate and non-ridiculous way to vote in the 21st century.

After that documentary came out showing the problems with these scanning machines you would figure everyone would change over to electronic voting.

Although, with the "highly reliable" voting machines of Montgomery County, PA, my brother attempted to push the button for John McCain's name just to see if it would let him, and just like in The Simpsons episode, it didn't let him...didn't really matter considering he was voting for Obama anyway.

Did he do so after he pressed Obama?  You have to de-select on most machines.

[Aizen]

Go Franken. The fate of this country depends on your victory. Evil must be vanquished.

[Sam Spade]

Chart is now fully updated.  Coleman presently leads by 165.

All the updates today so far from the Strib have come from three counties:  Hennepin (5%V to 23%), St. Louis (19%V to 23%V) and Pine (71%V to 100%V).

Will update more later.

[Eraserhead]

OMG OPTICAL SCAN AND PAPER BALLOTS ARE SUUOOO AWEZOME CUZ WE CAN RECOUNT THEM! OMG!

Electronic voting is the only accurate and non-ridiculous way to vote in the 21st century.

Accurate? Ha. I guess you missed all of those issues people were having in West Virginia this time around (just for example).

[Torie]

What does "C4, F3" mean?  Has Coleman challenged 4 Franken ballots, or has Franken challenged four Coleman ballots?

"Hennepin (1%)   23%P, 23%V   237,649 (3,782)   -42   329,408 (2,508)   -37   F+5   C80, F44"

How does one lose votes in a recount, as outlined above with Coleman losing 42 and Franken 37?

[ChrisFromNJ]

Interesting to see how Coleman is challenging around 70 more ballots than Franken.

[Sam Spade]

What does "C4, F3" mean?  Has Coleman challenged 4 Franken ballots, or has Franken challenged four Coleman ballots?

"Hennepin (1%)   23%P, 23%V   237,649 (3,782)   -42   329,408 (2,508)   -37   F+5   C80, F44"

How does one lose votes in a recount, as outlined above with Coleman losing 42 and Franken 37?

Coleman has challenged four ballots, Franken has challenged three.  These can be any type of ballot - a blank vote, an overvote, a Franken vote, a Barkley vote, etc.

As to the second question, most of this likely occurred by multiple scans of the same ballot.  As I mentioned earlier, the audit showed to me that very few of the blank ballots would actually be counted, so there was a decent probability it was whoever lost the least votes would win.

Of course, the challenges may change that.

[Torie]

What does "C4, F3" mean?  Has Coleman challenged 4 Franken ballots, or has Franken challenged four Coleman ballots?

"Hennepin (1%)   23%P, 23%V   237,649 (3,782)   -42   329,408 (2,508)   -37   F+5   C80, F44"

How does one lose votes in a recount, as outlined above with Coleman losing 42 and Franken 37?

Coleman has challenged four ballots, Franken has challenged three.  These can be any type of ballot - a blank vote, an overvote, a Franken vote, a Barkley vote, etc.

As to the second question, most of this likely occurred by multiple scans of the same ballot.  As I mentioned earlier, the audit showed to me that very few of the blank ballots would actually be counted, so there was a decent probability it was whoever lost the least votes would win.

Of course, the challenges may change that.

If it is multiple counting of the same ballot, then the changes should be random no, rather than Franken having an advantage due to the dumb Democrat factor, i.e., dumbs who can't manage to mark their ballot on that portion of the ballot that causes the optical counting machine to get all hot and bothered, and count a vote?

[Sam Spade]

What does "C4, F3" mean?  Has Coleman challenged 4 Franken ballots, or has Franken challenged four Coleman ballots?

"Hennepin (1%)   23%P, 23%V   237,649 (3,782)   -42   329,408 (2,508)   -37   F+5   C80, F44"

How does one lose votes in a recount, as outlined above with Coleman losing 42 and Franken 37?

Coleman has challenged four ballots, Franken has challenged three.  These can be any type of ballot - a blank vote, an overvote, a Franken vote, a Barkley vote, etc.

As to the second question, most of this likely occurred by multiple scans of the same ballot.  As I mentioned earlier, the audit showed to me that very few of the blank ballots would actually be counted, so there was a decent probability it was whoever lost the least votes would win.

Of course, the challenges may change that.

If it is multiple counting of the same ballot, then the changes should be random no, rather than Franken having an advantage due to the dumb Democrat factor, i.e., dumbs who can't manage to mark their ballot on that portion of the ballot that causes the optical counting machine to get all hot and bothered, and count a vote?

It's more complicated than that, but theoretically yes.  I still suspect the blank votes that count will break for Franken. 

Of course, without an actual visual of challenged ballots, I have no clue as to what's going on with that issue.

Another wrench in measuring challenges is that both sides can challenge one ballot.  I have no clue whether it's counted twice or with the side that first challenged it.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I've not really been following this all that closely... who's favoured to win now [qm].

[Sam Spade]

Hennepin is now at 25%.  Coleman ahead by 157.

[ChrisFromNJ]

I like Franken's chances if he can to within 50 by the time the recount is over and the canvassing board gathers to look at the challenged ballots.

[Lunar]

I hope whoever wins wins by 1 vote.

[Lief 🗽]

So the odds are pretty strong at this point that whoever wins wins with less than 100 votes, right? Because that's awesome.

[Sam Spade]

Some of the smaller counties that should be done today are starting to come in.  I will update this evening.

[© tweed]

Coleman +143 according to StarTrib, 30% recounted, but only 8% in Minneapolis.

it's becoming more difficult to continue to expect the worst.

[© tweed]

I've not really been following this all that closely... who's favoured to win now [qm].

Franken is a 62.0 - 36.5 favorite on Intrade.