Arizona GOP blocks gun buyback programs, because neener neener. (user search)
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
May 18, 2024, 08:20:06 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  U.S. General Discussion (Moderators: The Dowager Mod, Chancellor Tanterterg)
  Arizona GOP blocks gun buyback programs, because neener neener. (search mode)
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: Arizona GOP blocks gun buyback programs, because neener neener.  (Read 1906 times)
True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
Ernest
Moderators
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 42,144
United States


« on: May 05, 2013, 12:19:32 AM »

Buybacks would still get guns out of the hands of those who aren't supposed to have them legally in the first place.  It also presumably would get unsafe guns (in the sense of being in bad condition and thus prone to malfunction) out of circulation.  Actually I'm surprised that Republicans would be wanting the guns sold to dealers.  Increasing the supply of used guns will hurt the sales of new guns, so I'd imagine the NRA would be opposed to it since they are the rifle makers' shills.
Logged
True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
Ernest
Moderators
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 42,144
United States


« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2013, 12:45:24 AM »

Good. Gun buybacks are useless anyways.

Not entirely useless, but I don't see any of the positive things they accomplish being impeded by this bill.
Logged
True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
Ernest
Moderators
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 42,144
United States


« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2013, 03:14:19 PM »

As long as incorporated cities are allowed to exist, they can implement measures such as buybacks, since it is explicitly a local issue and cities can make expenditures. I don't see how it can be enforced.

Considering that some of these buybacks are financed heavily by the private sector I don't see how Constitutionally the state can come in and say what you do with the guy once you buy it off someone.  If I was a billionaire I would fund one of these buybacks and destroy the guns just to see what happens.  Just from the point of view of small unintrusive government this is crazy.  It really demonstrates another fable about small government Republicans.  It joins fables about Republicans managing the economy and the military as well.

This is interesting though.  It's funny to watch tea party bozos waste their money rallying in Washington when a lot of the really intrusive and dumb regulations happen on the state and local level.

Once you get to a certain level of sales or purchases of guns, you are considered a dealer under Federal law.  Keep in mind that one attraction of these buybacks is that guns which are stolen, or which the person who held them should not have had can be disposed of anonymously, which I am doubtful that a Federally registered dealer could do.  Basically, the government sanction is needed here to do this, even if someone else provides the money.

Now that I  think of it, has anyone checked to see if there is a surge in gun thefts shortly before these buybacks?  Seems like a fairly perfect crime assuming you don't get caught doing the stealing since you can be reasonably certain that the fence you sell the goods too won't be turning you in.
Logged
Pages: [1]  
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.022 seconds with 11 queries.