Yves Smith, Martin Wolf call for Surplus countries to stimulate demand.
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  Yves Smith, Martin Wolf call for Surplus countries to stimulate demand.
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« on: December 03, 2008, 11:42:03 AM »

And big stimulus programs won't work because they don't address underlying imbalances.

"The operating assumption behind US policy now is seeing the US situation as parallel to that of the US in the Depression, and taking the view, based on the fact that the US seemed to finally shake off the slump with the demands of wartime production and the unprecedented budget deficits that accompanied them. But there were considerable worries in 1946 that the US would fall back into Depression. The conventional view is that pent-up demand carried the US through, after a sharp but very short downturn in 1946.

However, would this strategy have worked in a peacetime setting? The US also emerged from its slump to a world with a tremendous amount of industrial production destroyed by the war. Thus, the US, whose problem in the late 1920s (which didn't look like a problem at the time) was that it was a huge exporter, to the point where it sucked up so much gold as to be destabilizing to the financial system, could with 50% of world GDP, revert to its preferred old role with less damaging side effects. Had the rest of the world gone into wartime levels of stimulus along with the US, without the loss of productive capacity, would there ever have been an end of the beggar-thy-neighbor trade policies of the 1930s? International trade didn't just fall, "collapsed" is not an uncommon characterization of the degree of contraction....

Similarly, as we have said before, the US was a world-dominating exporter, as China is now, and had the biggest gold reserves, as China now had the largest FX reserves. Thus it is China that needs to undergo a huge-scale stimulus program to make up for the loss of demand from the US. Keynes, in the 1930s, advocated that the US make up for the demand loss rather than expecting the US's overindebted European trade partners to continue overconsuming....

Yet what is being advocated as a Keynesian remedy is in fact the opposite of what Keynes called for in his day. Keynes' prescription then would lead to a global rebalancing, with the US depending more on internally generated demand and less on its foreign partners (who were defaulting on their government debt). But if it were successfully deployed in the US now, it wold lead to a continuation, of our excessive consumption and China's underdevelopment of its internal demand."

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/12/martin-wolf-says-big-stimulus-programs.html#links
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2008, 12:08:33 PM »

Sounds reasonable, but won't really have any effect on the US, as even a China with stimulated demand wouldn't be buying much from the US.
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2008, 12:57:26 PM »

Sounds reasonable, but won't really have any effect on the US, as even a China with stimulated demand wouldn't be buying much from the US.

Yeah but for any given level of Chinese production, which their government will need to prop up for political reasons, greater Chinese demand means less pressure on our trade deficit. In any case it's not just China but also Japan and Germany.
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