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Question: If Beto doesn't win his Senate race, does he enter the 2020 Pres Primary?
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« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2018, 12:11:28 PM »
« edited: October 17, 2018, 12:17:06 PM by Orser67 »

I think he should for president whether or not he wins.

a)With three terms in Congress, he's reasonably qualified to be president (unlike Kander)
b)He's already shown himself to be a great fundraiser. Normally it's impossible to pivot from running for statewide office to running for president in just two years, but he's already established a national fundraising network, and it's not like he's some unknown state senator.
c)So far at least, he's done a good job of appealing to both moderates and liberals
d)Unless Castro runs, he has a good shot of consolidating support in the second most populous state in the country, which is a great base to start from
e)Even if he doesn't win the 2020 primary, a respectable showing could set him up for a future run
f)Most importantly, the 2020 Democratic field is looking pretty weak. There's a huge opening for fresh blood.

Also, there's no shame in losing to an incumbent in TX. If he can at least keep the race close, he'd have a strong argument that he's more electable than people like Sanders, Warren, and Harris, all of whom are from safely blue states.
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« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2018, 07:48:12 PM »


Yeah, our "rising stars" are cursed to run in unwinnable states.
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« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2018, 12:42:17 AM »

Electability will be a big if not the most important issue among Dem voters I think voting for someone who just suffered a huge electoral loss would be a huge risk in some voters mind. Cruz in many ways is a mini-Trump and if he can't beat him in a 'blue wave' then how can he beat Trump?
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« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2018, 04:40:12 AM »

If he loses by a small margin (say, 2-3 points) sure, he would be fine. If he loses by a lot (say, by 9, just like Clinton) he wouldn't start from a good spot and shouldn't run.

I think he would be better as a VP pick than as president though.
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« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2018, 05:07:05 AM »

He should position himself to be the Veep pick for someone like Sanders or Merkley. That would be a net benefit.
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« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2018, 11:17:58 PM »

Beto gave a very strong performance on the CNN Town Hall.  and did a very good job of presenting Liberal ideas..... in a manner that would not immediately turn off Independants and Moderate Republicans... and in a tone that does not seem radical or overly partisan.











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« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2018, 12:34:04 PM »

I think he should. “He lost the senate race” is an argument, not a disqualifier. He’s got a charisma that would excite people and bring young voters out. He’s got a way of garnering media attention that would put him in top tier. He generally defies being pegged as in one Dem wing or the other better than Sanders or Warren, he comes across as way more populist than Harris or Booker. I think I’d prefer him over 3 of them, still listening to Harris.

What’s the worst that could happen? I’d think losing the Dem Primary would be less political-career ending than losing a second Senate bid (against Cornyn).

This is pretty much how I feel about the issue. If he loses his senate run but is still able to keep up positive buzz about himself, I think he could have a good amount of momentum going into the primaries.
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« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2018, 07:13:36 AM »

I think he should for president whether or not he wins.

a)With three terms in Congress, he's reasonably qualified to be president (unlike Kander)
b)He's already shown himself to be a great fundraiser. Normally it's impossible to pivot from running for statewide office to running for president in just two years, but he's already established a national fundraising network, and it's not like he's some unknown state senator.
c)So far at least, he's done a good job of appealing to both moderates and liberals
d)Unless Castro runs, he has a good shot of consolidating support in the second most populous state in the country, which is a great base to start from
e)Even if he doesn't win the 2020 primary, a respectable showing could set him up for a future run
f)Most importantly, the 2020 Democratic field is looking pretty weak. There's a huge opening for fresh blood.

Also, there's no shame in losing to an incumbent in TX. If he can at least keep the race close, he'd have a strong argument that he's more electable than people like Sanders, Warren, and Harris, all of whom are from safely blue states.

Agreed.
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« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2018, 08:36:11 PM »


c)So far at least, he's done a good job of appealing to both moderates and liberals


f)Most importantly, the 2020 Democratic field is looking pretty weak. There's a huge opening for fresh blood.

Also, there's no shame in losing to an incumbent in TX. If he can at least keep the race close, he'd have a strong argument that he's more electable than people like Sanders, Warren, and Harris, all of whom are from safely blue states.

Most Deep Blue state Senators win in the (senate) Primary... and this is accomplished by who can sound the most liberal/ progressive. This highlights One reason electability is often an issue for Senators from deep Blue states (a few obvious exceptions like Obama)... Most of these such Senators have no experience having to communicate their ideas to Independents and moderate Republican voters in swing states who may be open to their policies, but who are often turned off by a hyper partisan tone and rhetoric.
.....This is what could set Beto apart from top name candidates regarding electability (who are Deep Blue Senators) like Warren, Harris, Sanders, Booker.
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« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2018, 11:50:14 AM »

Nah, he should wait for a dem win in 2020 and get a cabinet appointment.

Assuming that Beto loses next month, this is right.

It's too soon to run for President just two years after losing a Senate race. Richard Nixon waited for six years after he lost the California Governor's race before he ran for President again. And in the meantime he rebuilt his credentials as a campaigner by campaigning heavily for the Republican ticket in the '66 midterms.
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« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2018, 10:08:03 PM »

I added a poll- Do you think Beto enter the primary? (regardless if you think he should or not).
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« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2018, 10:15:27 PM »

No, he's probably screwed if he doesn't win this.

On paper, I actually think serving several terms in the House qualifies you for the Presidency - I'd say that if you have the right policy vision, character, etc, it's an acceptable though not ideal amount of political experience.  But I think he'l be tagged as a loser/inexperienced.

What he really needs to have happen if he loses this race is to get picked as Elizabeth Warren's VP candidate or something like that, then use that position to run for President.

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« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2018, 10:27:02 PM »

O' Rourke looks promising. He is an articulate speaker. Connect well with voters. I think he might be the dems best chance at defeating Trump.  https://twitter.com/ThisWeekABC/status/1054014261364576257
This is how you handle Trump.
Even if he loses he is someone to look out for.
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« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2018, 10:18:41 PM »

Let the Betomania begin
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« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2018, 11:10:07 PM »

He enters the Democratic primary for the Texas senate seat up in 2020, gets the nomination, and runs a tough fight against the incumbent Republican. 
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« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2018, 11:19:34 PM »

He enters the Democratic primary for the Texas senate seat up in 2020, gets the nomination, and runs a tough fight against the incumbent Republican. 
If he couldn't beat Cruz, he won't beat Cornyn. He should run for President honestly. He outdid everyone's expectations, and is by far better than any other potential Dem candidate.
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« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2018, 11:33:16 PM »

Cornyn is much more skillful than Cruz
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« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2018, 11:35:48 PM »

I don’t think he will but he should.
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« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2018, 03:58:21 AM »

He ran a great Senate campaign Dems need winners, like Booker and Heinrich, not losing candidates
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« Reply #44 on: November 07, 2018, 05:32:33 AM »
« Edited: November 07, 2018, 05:37:14 AM by SCNCmod »

He enters the Democratic primary for the Texas senate seat up in 2020, gets the nomination, and runs a tough fight against the incumbent Republican.  
If he couldn't beat Cruz, he won't beat Cornyn. He should run for President honestly. He outdid everyone's expectations, and is by far better than any other potential Dem candidate.

Agree Completely
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« Reply #45 on: November 07, 2018, 05:35:23 AM »

He ran a great Senate campaign Dems need winners, like Booker and Heinrich, not losing candidates

If you want to keep Beto out of the primary thinking a path will be more clear for Booker.... it won't matter- Cory Booker definitely will not be the nominee (even though last year I thought maybe... but now, not a chance).
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« Reply #46 on: November 07, 2018, 05:56:04 AM »

Come to think about it, wouldn't the best option for him be to run for governor in 2022?
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« Reply #47 on: November 07, 2018, 12:12:00 PM »

At first I wasn't about the idea, but now I think we just might need him to run.
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« Reply #48 on: November 07, 2018, 12:27:22 PM »

Nah, he should wait for a dem win in 2020 and get a cabinet appointment.

Assuming that Beto loses next month, this is right.

It's too soon to run for President just two years after losing a Senate race. Richard Nixon waited for six years after he lost the California Governor's race before he ran for President again. And in the meantime he rebuilt his credentials as a campaigner by campaigning heavily for the Republican ticket in the '66 midterms.

A huge difference was that Nixon was a former VP. That gives you an instant national profile as long as you want it, like we've seen with Gore before and now Biden. Beto, by Januray, will be a former congressman. All of his momentum from the great showing last night will fade with time, so I believe now is the time for him.

I think he should. He's very promising, a freshh face, and the candidates we know are probably going to enter all have major flaws and seem pretty boring at this point. If he ran against that field I'd support him.
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« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2018, 01:29:13 PM »

...or run for Governor should our dictator appoint Greg Abbott to a Cabinet position.
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