2024: Stacey Abrams/Steve Bullock vs Mike Pence/Marco Rubio
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« on: August 08, 2018, 08:11:03 PM »
« edited: August 09, 2018, 07:05:32 PM by NewYorkExpress »

After Donald Trump narrowly wins re-election, Democrats nominate a "Dark Horse candidate" in Stacey Abrams (who obviously has won the 2018 Georgia Gubernatorial election), just like in 1976 with Jimmy Carter. She selects Steve Bullock (who was elected Senator from Montana in 2020) as her running mate.

Mike Pence secures the Republican nomination and selects Marco Rubio (who has won reelection in 2022) as his running mate.

President Trump remains very popular with his base, very unpopular with Democrats, and opinions of him are divided amongst Independents.

So, who wins? (Use maps if possible)

 
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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2018, 09:28:26 AM »

Yikes. Can I vote third party? Abrams.. too left. Unelectable. Pence .. looney tunes right and enabling Trump is unforgivable. Rubio is tolerable if I hold my nose. I’d love to see Bullock though
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2018, 05:50:24 PM »


Vice President Mike Pence (R-IN)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) - 271 EV 48.6%
Governor Stacey Abrams (D-GA)/Senator Steve Bullock (D-MT) -267 EV 49.3%

Closest States: AZ, NC, MN, FL, PA
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2018, 06:00:42 PM »


Vice President Mike Pence (R-IN)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) - 271 EV 48.6%
Governor Stacey Abrams (D-GA)/Senator Steve Bullock (D-MT) -267 EV 49.3%

Closest States: AZ, NC, MN, FL, PA
Secular states like NH and ME aren't voting for a theocrat.
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2018, 06:19:51 PM »
« Edited: August 09, 2018, 06:34:04 PM by libertpaulian »

Anyway, my take.  America will be fed up with Trump and Trumpism.  The economy is likely to crater by then, people will want a return to normalcy, the Dems win mega yuge in 2022, and demographics will have drastically changed.  Plus, Millennials will have aged enough that they turn out in higher numbers than before.  They start voting at rates and patterns similar to their Boomer parents.  

TL;DR, Americans aren't going to go for Trump's lackey, plus the historic nature of Abrams' candidacy will be enough to drive turnout up to insane margins.

This is the best scenario for Pence:



Governor Stacey Abrams (D-GA)/Senator Steve Bullock (D-MT) -377 EV 52%
Vice President Mike Pence (R-IN)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) - 161 EV 45%
Third Parties                                                                             0 EV   3%

This is Pence's worst nightmare:



Governor Stacey Abrams (D-GA)/Senator Steve Bullock (D-MT) -455 EV 54%
Vice President Mike Pence (R-IN)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) -     83 EV 44%
Third Parties                                                                             0 EV   2%

Texas and Mississippi are decided by 2%.  South Carolina by 1%.  Missouri is decided by less than 1%.  Indiana goes to a recount, and Abrams comes out on top by about 7,000 votes thanks to higher-than-usual turnout in Indy and Gary.  Alaska is the shocker of the night and is decided by 3% thanks to a write-in effort by a third-party candidate which drives Republican margins down.

Thoughts?  Too exaggerated?  I'd personally like to hear from the Georgians on this board, especially RFKFan68, North Fulton Democrat, DTC, Adam Griffin, GeorgiaModerate, dotard, and company.



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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2018, 06:25:24 PM »

What, you mean the Republicans didn't nominate the saintly Nikki Haley? How dare they! 500EV Stacey Abrams landslide.
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2018, 09:48:39 AM »



Governor Stacey Abrams (D-GA)/Senator Steve Bullock (D-MT) -294 EV 50.9%
Vice President Mike Pence (R-IN)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) - 244 EV 47.3%
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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2018, 07:39:03 PM »



Governor Stacey Abrams (D-GA)/Senator Steve Bullock (D-MT) -294 EV 50.9%
Vice President Mike Pence (R-IN)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) - 244 EV 47.3%

Florida and Ohio are bellwethers...I'd give her those states
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2018, 01:50:56 AM »
« Edited: August 11, 2018, 02:05:23 AM by RFKFan68 »

Yikes. Can I vote third party? Abrams.. too left. Unelectable.
What about Ms. Abrams is so left that she'd be unelectable?



Governor Stacey Abrams (D-GA)/Senator Steve Bullock (D-MT) -377 EV 52%
Vice President Mike Pence (R-IN)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) - 161 EV 45%
Third Parties                                                                             0 EV   3%
This is realistic. We will have to wait until November to see how it goes but she is adamant about finding non-voters in every corner and under every rock, so this map would not surprise me.
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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2018, 04:25:00 AM »
« Edited: December 27, 2018, 04:33:09 AM by swords »

 



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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2018, 12:02:55 PM »



Governor Stacey Abrams (D-GA)/Senator Steve Bullock (D-MT) - 303 EV 50.5%
Vice President Mike Pence (R-IN)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) - 235 EV 47.4%
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2019, 09:06:41 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2019, 08:00:07 AM »

lol
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